I have been doing everything to get a license a lot of phone calls besides that is rather easy then why is there so many unlicensed bakers? is it better to go unlicensed?
What do you mean, so many unlicensed bakers? I think it's the fact that there are so many states that don't license and will not allow at-home bakers to begin with, not that people are going unlicensed. Is that what you mean?
Yes the ladies that choose not to get a license in states where it is illegal to sell cakes out of our homes. I know for a fact in my area there are they all shop in the same cake supply store I do, but very few businesses are listed or advertise, why is that I wonder it does take work but it is not impossible I am working right now towards getting my license I got a kitchen to rent already and waiting for the library to give me the book to study for the food handler's permit and I don't even need a tax id since I'm doing it as a sole owner business I also will be calling about the dba what it is how do I get one and just making sure I have everything for the health department and I'm also working and getting me a friend there
so yes it took me all morning just to get all this information but it is not impossible why some ladies choose not go get license is the question I also will be calling about some liability insurance and how much it would cost me am I making a mistake am I better off not being license if I can't have my own cake shop?
How are they going to get a license if it is illegal? Their only option would be to open a retail bakery, I believe, and that's just not applicable for everyone. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding.
I'm sorry, just a bit confused. Throw me a period or comma in there once in a while. ![]()
Yes the ladies that choose not to get a license in states where it is illegal to sell cakes out of our homes. I know for a fact in my area there are they all shop in the same cake supply store I do, but very few businesses are listed or advertise, why is that I wonder it does take work but it is not impossible I am working right now towards getting my license I got a kitchen to rent already and waiting for the library to give me the book to study for the food handler's permit and I don't even need a tax id since I'm doing it as a sole owner business I also will be calling about the dba what it is how do I get one and just making sure I have everything for the health department and I'm also working and getting me a friend there
Every business, sole proprietorship or not has to pay sales tax....to do that you have to get a tax ID #....and the tax ID # is the way to get supplies and ingredients at wholesale...and to not have to pay sales tax on anything you are reselling....
It's the federal ID # you don't need if you are registered as a sole proprietorship.
Sorry my grammar in bad most of the time I'm holding the baby so I'm typing with one hand, and my English is not very good
Ok so I have been doing the research to get a license and yes although time consuming not impossible if renting a kitchen is the easiest answer then why is there still so many bakers selling cakes out of their homes? When all they gotta do is find kitchen space. I didn't find it hard at all and I'm starting to think I might be making a mistake I know so many laies that sell cakes out of their homes with no problems why am I bothering then?
Am I making a mistake? hope that makes more sense
yes, you are making sense. and you are doing the right thing getting licensed. its better, then you dont have to worry about being turned in and you can advertise and get the business built up faster.
you deff. need a sales tax licence. good luck.
congrats on the baby. how old?
well I don't know what state you're in, but Texas is one of the strictest states to get a license in, and trust me, I've knocked upon just about every door trying to find one to rent, it's just not that easy in our state. I've stopped baking/selling from home due to the strict fines and liabilities.
I only started baking out of my home last year, when I had been a year without a job, though relentlessly looking, and was about to have my house foreclosed on and my car repossessed. It was done as a last resort, and it got us through the rough months. I'm now getting back on my feet and have stopped.
I also, do not have any family to get money from, my credit is shot since I lost my job (I was the breadwinner in the family) and as much as I would LOVE to get my license, it's just not feasible for me, and I'm sure for alot of others.
I am planning on opening my own retail shop in the next couple of years, saving little by little and rebuilding my credit.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be so long, it's just ....sometimes, you have to do what you have to do to put food on the table. ![]()
Sending out hugs.((((((((((HUGS))))))))))
Icingandsprinkles what state are you in? I have searched the net & called all over the place to find out who does the liscensing & what needs to be dne. All to be told it's not who I'm talking to.
I personally no longer sale cakes. I have me friends buy everything needed, I just bake & decorate. I actually haven't done a cake since Christmas.
As Everylastingsweets already said, sometimes it's not feasiable for some.
I think getting a license varies from state to state and from person to person. I have been decorating cakes mostly for friends and family for about the cost of ingredients and I've only done a couple. So I really wouldn't call it selling from home.
I live in a very small town. There was a bakery here once, about 3 years ago. They opened and 2 or 3 months later they were gone. I would have to be financially independent to attempt to open my own shop here after that example.
If you have the time, energy and it is feasible then go for it! And Good Luck!
Everlasting Sweets - here's another HUG. I hope that if ever I am put in that position (unemployed and broke) I hope I have the strength of character that you have shown. I have always had family to fall back on. It's a great blessing!
Sending out hugs.((((((((((HUGS))))))))))
Icingandsprinkles what state are you in? I have searched the net & called all over the place to find out who does the liscensing & what needs to be dne. All to be told it's not who I'm talking to.
As Everylastingsweets already said, sometimes it's not feasiable for some.
In my state anyways the local health department license retail bakeries and kitchens. I found the number and email on my state's government page.
everlastingsweets I'm so sorry I hope everything falls into place someday well I better keep doing my research I can't wait to get my license to advertise and that's a whole 'nother thread!!!! thanks for your advice
awww thank you friends!
It has been hard, especially with no family, I have no parents (they died when I was young) and no siblings. I have only one uncle, and he's not rich, just maintaining. I always tell people how lucky they are, especially having family to fall back on, especially in hard times, mentally and financially. Thank God, I have a wonderful husband makes up for all of that!
we are slowly, getting back on our feet, and the creditors, have been willing to work with us.
I think the best thing about CC, is that yes, there are MANY people who would love to open their own bakeries, but financially can't. Through here, it's like our own virtual bakery!
Good luck to you icing!!! I'll be there one day!!
<HUGS> back to everyone!
Icing and Sprinkles,
Yes, you need sales tax Number. You also need insurance. Should have food handling permit.
Most of the people here are not able to swing the costs all at one time. It is nice to see the few who can.
every one of the bakers on this board would be legal if they could. what holds most of us back is the investment for doing just a few cakes here and there. I have saved for 5Yrs and now i am legal, baking out of my commercial kitchen that was our garage. it just takes time, lots of money and a desire to move to the next step with all the consequences that that intails, fees, permits, licensing, insurance etc. and it looks like you have that desire. good luck.
Amen, sweetcakes! My aunt, who I love to death, once asked me "can't you just buy a regular stove and refrigerator? Why do you think you need those expensive silver ones?"
Uh..... because they are HEALTH DEPT REQUIRED!
And then trying to explain that I was not even allowed to set up my kitchen any way I want .... that the Health Dept had to approved my floor plan to insure proper food handling and workflow.
Everyone on here would be legal if we didn't have to buy an $8000 exhaust hood, or a $3000 refrigerator, or a $4000 stove or a $2500 oven or a special 3-compartment sink, or buy special chemicals "just for washing dishes". It would be nice just to be able to spend $50 on a couples gallons of paint instead of $250 for special health-dept approved wall treatments. And let's not overlook the construction costs!
Try explaining to those who tell you "my gramma can do the cooking for the wedding cheaper" that I, as a caterer, can't use $4 Tupperware to transport the food, but I have to use a $300 "food safe" and/or 5 or 6 insulated carriers that cost me $100 each. I can't just throw the food in the back of my car ... I had to buy a van and a commercial auto policy that costs me $2200 a year (compared to your $500 personal policy). Plus for larger weddings, I've had to rent a second van for all of the equipment I had to transport. At even a small reception for only 75 people, I have a minimum of $3000 worth of equipment sitting on those tables and in the kitchen. Not to mention what I put out in payroll every week for the crew to work these events.
I dont' want to re-start the debate on legal vs. not legal. If it was just a matter of going down to get a license, every CC'er would be legal. There are just lots of other factors to be considered ... and most of them monetary.
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