I've Tried Everything...

Decorating By PennySue Updated 7 Feb 2006 , 2:09am by LisaMS

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PennySue Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:00am
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but my roses are still sliding right off the nail. It's almost as if they are melting and the butter is making them slide. Could that be? I keep my hands cold, the nail cold, the bc cold, the waxpaper cold (just kidding) but I'm getting frustrated. The flowers look good but I feel like I'm racing to keep them on the nail. Anyone out there have any other suggestions that I'm not thinking of? I'd really appreciate it.

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Alien_Sunset Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:06am
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Sometimes the butter to shortening ration can cause it. Try using more shortening instead of butter.

Also try making the butter cream thicker. Add less water and more sugar when you make it.

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Mac Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:13am
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I don't use the butter recipe bettercream because it's not heat stable. Only use Crisco shortening and butter flavoring. Cut back on the butter and add a bit more powdered sugar.

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veejaytx Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:28am
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After going through this myself, I finally started making little fondant cones on toothpicks, let them dry, then make my roses on them. Gives me a solid base to work with, and helps me a lot. Janice

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auntiecake Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 3:29am
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Crisco will give your frosting more stability and it won't get soft so quickly. Also the frosting needs to be stiffer for roses than frosting and borders. Hope this helps!

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melony1976 Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 3:32am
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I agree the crisco recipe is best because the butter tends to melt right away. And remember you need stiff frosting to make roses try adding more powdered sugar.

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DiscoLady Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 4:38am
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When I took my Wilton class the instructor gave us each a bit of florist clay to press onto our nails. The wax paper sticks like a charm and the clay lasts a long time before needing to be replaced.
When I need to make a lot of roses I place all my wax squares onto a cookie sheet and pipe all my bases onto them. I let them crust while I do other things, then I dab a bit of bc on the nail, place the wax square on the nail and flower away...
I've heard of using chocolate kisses for the rose bases also, but I haven't tried them yet...sounds like a good idea to me though.

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melony1976 Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 6:35am
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hey that sounds like something fun to try

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loriemoms Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 10:44am
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Originally Posted by DiscoLady


I've heard of using chocolate kisses for the rose bases also, but I haven't tried them yet...sounds like a good idea to me though.




What a cool idea! Has anyone tried it?

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Lemondrop Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:12pm
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I've never used the chocolate kisses for the buttercream roses, but I've used a small jelly bean for making the bud for the fondant roses, and it works perfectly without having to wait for the fondant to dry icon_smile.gif It's also more stable.

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bookbabe Posted 4 Feb 2006 , 2:58pm
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I've tried the chocolate kisses for a rose base--it's great!! For some reason they seem to go together easier and when people bite into them, they think it's so cool to have chocolate in the middle!!

I agree with some of the other comments too--use all Crisco for the roses and put a dab of icing/ florist clay to hold onto your wax paper.

But I really like the using the kisses as a base!!
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auntiecake Posted 5 Feb 2006 , 1:12am
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Kisses, yummy and a nice surprise when you bite into them.

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PennySue Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 11:31pm
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Thank you all so very much for the suggestions. I really like the chocolate kiss one. I like using a little bit of butter in the frosting so I might just keep that for the frosting and use just shorting for the roses. Thanks again and again. I was getting really frustrated!

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subaru Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 11:52pm
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How about someone doing a tutorial on the hershey kiss roses? I'm sure those of us that never heard of it would really appreciate it. How about it?

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Loucinda Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 12:39am
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There really isn't anything to it. You just use a dab of icing on the bottom of the kiss to hold it on the flower nail( Instead of piping the #12 base of the rose) then you start making the first 3 petals around the hershey's kiss instead....and continue on from there.

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ttatummm Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 1:26am
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Chocolate kisses, now that's a great idea. I am definitely try that next time I made BC roses.

I had the same problem, the BC holding the waxpaper to the nail would melt very quickly and my roses would go flying off.

One day I'm practicing roses and my son is playing with home-made playdough and I think everything in playdough is editable and its not going to touch the BC anyway so I try it for sticking the waxpaper to the nail. I've never had problems making BC roses since.

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poppie Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 2:00am
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I use kisses all the time I't works great you use it as the base and then go and make the rose as always. Use white chocolate kisses or it may show a little at the tip if you don't close it all the way.I't is all I use and they get a nice treat inside. thumbs_up.gif

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LisaMS Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 2:09am
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What if you just did the rose right on the nail without the wax paper? Then move it with a small icing spatula (removing from spatula with a toothpick)? This is my lazy way to do it...got tired of cutting all those wax squares. Place them on a board with wax paper if you need to harden them i the fridge or just put them directly on cake.

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