Meringue Powder Questions

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Jessmar Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 8:08pm
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I have a couple questions about meringue powder, so here they are:

1. Is it a safe substitute for egg whites?
I know that when egg whites are not fully cooked, they should not be prepared for pregnant women, babies, young children, the elderly, or anyone whose health is compromised. Is this true for meringue powder too?

2. Can I substitute meringue powder (with amount of water specified on meringue powder container) for egg whites to make Swiss Meringue Buttercream, Italian Meringue Buttercream, or similar recipes and still get the same results?

3. If I make a meringue buttercream recipe using meringue powder and ice a cake with it, does the cake need to be refrigerated (assuming the filling does not require refrigeration)?

Any information is appreciated! TIA, Jess

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sweetamber Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 8:59pm
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Here is what I know:

1)Meringue powder is safe for anyone to eat(except maybe those with allergies) but is not an acceptable substitute for egg whites IMO.

2)I don't think so. Meringue powder has many ingredients other than egg whites, and will affect the outcome of your recipe. You can however use powdered egg whites or pasteurized egg whites that are found in little cartons in the refrigerated section of the grocery store, usually near the eggs (but not always)- this would also be cheaper than using meringue powder.

3) see #'s 1 and 2 icon_biggrin.gif

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chaptlps Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 9:10pm
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The liquid pastuerized eggwhites won't whip
There is a product called "just whites" Which is nothing but dehydrated pastuerized egg whites that you reconstitute. They work perfectly for substituting. And they don't have any stabilizers that you find in meringue powder. So you will have to add the cream of tartar or lemon juice to stabilize them.
I have found that if you do use them it's best to reconstitute them with a little bit of warm water about 30 minutes before you need them. It gives the powder time to absorb the liquid. Then they work just fine.
You should be able to find them in the drygoods healthfood section or dietetic section of the grocery store.

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sweetamber Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 9:13pm
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The pastuerized eggwhites won't whip




I beg to differ! That is all I use for my SMBC and in bakeries I have worked in it is all we used for making everything, from sponge cakes to mousse.

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butternut Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 9:29pm
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The pastuerized eggwhites won't whip



I beg to differ! That is all I use for my SMBC and in bakeries I have worked in it is all we used for making everything, from sponge cakes to mousse.



I don't mean to butt in on someone elses thread but have you used the powdered Just Whites? Do they work as well as the liquid Just Whites for the Meringue icings? Also, if you have used the powdered form, do you have to treat it just like you used fresh eggs in the shell? I know that if you use fresh eggs you will have to refrigerate the cake with the meringue icing because of the eggs but if you use the powdered Just Whites, can you leave the cake on the counter for a few days or do you have to refrigerate it? Geeez, I sure hope that made sense.... I've emailed the company that makes the Just Whites but have never received a response.

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chaptlps Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 9:41pm
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they have been pastuerized but any moist product has a shorter shelf life than dry. Personally, I would put mine in the fridge, just because I don't want my puppies sampling my wares. (p.s. I don't make my cakes at home I work out of a bakery)

Sweetamber, I think we are thinking of two different products here. The liquid eggwhites that they have here where I live aren't meant for baking n such, they don't have the correct consistency. If you can get the good stuff that's great. We just don't have that here.

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Jessmar Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 10:38pm
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Thanks for your replies! I have been reading more about the powdered Just Whites (I did a search on Google), and I read that they are pasteurized, salmonella-free, and safe to use, and Just Whites will produce the same results as if using real egg whites in a recipe. I also read, though, that the finished product should be refrigerated - for example if I iced a cake with Italian Meringue buttercream using Just Whites it should be stored in the refrigerator.

So, I think my original questions are answered - thanks everyone!

But now here's another question...
Does anyone have a good recipe for a meringue - type or whipped cream-type icing that does NOT require refrigeration? Thanks!

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butternut Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jessmar

Thanks for your replies! I have been reading more about the powdered Just Whites (I did a search on Google), and I read that they are pasteurized, salmonella-free, and safe to use, and Just Whites will produce the same results as if using real egg whites in a recipe. I also read, though, that the finished product should be refrigerated - for example if I iced a cake with Italian Meringue buttercream using Just Whites it should be stored in the refrigerator.

So, I think my original questions are answered - thanks everyone!

But now here's another question...
Does anyone have a good recipe for a meringue - type or whipped cream-type icing that does NOT require refrigeration? Thanks!



Well, that answers my question. I have to admit, I sure was hoping that it wouldn't have to be refrigerated, but, it is what it is. Thanks so much for sharing that information. I couldn't find it anywhere. Hey, I just thought of something. Alot of us use Meringue powder in our buttercream recipes. I wonder if bottom line the cakes that are iced with that buttercream should be refrigerated???????? Hmmmmm

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chaptlps Posted 18 Feb 2007 , 11:44pm
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There is a recipe here on the site that is called "whipped cream buttercream" It uses the same principles as imbc but has a much longer shelf life and isn't quite as delicate. but still better in my book than regular american bc.
here's the link to it. http://www.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-2019-Whipped-Cream-Buttercream-Frosting.html

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Jessmar Posted 19 Feb 2007 , 12:00am
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Hmmm I wonder too... I didn't think so, which is why I was hoping I could use meringue powder for a meringue icing that would not need to be refrigerated. I was reading an egg safety information page when I came across the information about refrigerating reconstituted egg products.

I just looked in my Toba Garret book (The Well-Decorated Cake), and her buttercream recipes include meringue powder. For her Decorator's Buttercream Icing, she says to store it you can freeze for up to 3 months, but doesn't say whether it should be refrigerated or not.
BUT, for her Decorator's Buttercream Practice Icing recipe that includes meringue powder, she specifies that icing "DOES NOT need to be refrigerated", and that "it lasts for months without refrigeration". So I'm still confused - I wonder if it doesn't need refrigeration because it is only a "practice" icing. I wish she specified for the regular buttercream recipe whether it needs to be refrigerated. Oh well... so my search for a meringue and/or whipped cream type icing that does not require refrigeration continues.

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Jessmar Posted 19 Feb 2007 , 12:03am
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Thanks chaptlps - I just saw your post! I'll have to check it out!

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butternut Posted 19 Feb 2007 , 12:23am
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Yea, Jessmar, I'm confused now too. If an icing made with powdered Just Whites would need refrigeration, then it seems that an icing made with Meringue powder would need refrigeration as well. They are both egg whites. I wonder if it could be that the meringue one wouldn't need refrigeration because it has added ingredients in the mix whereas the Just Whites just has the whites???? icon_cry.gif I'm sooooo confused.........

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MaisieBake Posted 19 Feb 2007 , 3:38am
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Any meringue buttercream would be refrigerated. A few spoonsful of meringue powder in a powdered sugar/crisco buttercream, no.

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sweetamber Posted 19 Feb 2007 , 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by chaptlps

Sweetamber, I think we are thinking of two different products here. The liquid eggwhites that they have here where I live aren't meant for baking n such, they don't have the correct consistency. If you can get the good stuff that's great. We just don't have that here.




I get the "All Whites" - they do say on the carton that they are heated during the pasteurization process (duh!) and not recommended for meringues and angel food cakes....but I gotta tell you, I have used them in both applications with no problems whatsoever. I don't remember the brands I used in bakeries, but they were frozen pasteurized whites in half gallon cartons.

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