With making roses . I see all these beautiful roses that everyone does but I just cant make em nice enough it seems. I cant make the petals have that beautiful curve on the edges like most people seem to be able to do.Can someone give me some tips, adivce ,something to help me make better buttercream roses . I am just about ready to repeat the Wilton classes to try and get better has anyone else done that?
Hun, all I can say is...........practice, practice and then some more practice. I have found that the more you do it the better you get at making your roses and there really isn't any "trick" except making sure that your frosting is stiff enough, but other than that. lotsa lotsa practice til you get them where you like them. Not all are going to be the same (which is a good thing actually) cause not all roses in nature are perfect and the same either.
I hold my flower nail at the bottom, and I make sure my wrist is angled. Pretty basic, but it's working so far... I'm still very new to decorating but my roses have come a long way. At least the aren't one continuous petal anymore. 
If you just review the course I book it will probably be very helpful.
Jackie64,
I know what you mean, I'm still not perfect at roses. but i found out that if I slant my hand outward as i do the 5 petals then the 7 petals, they seem to give that curl. Does that make sense? I'm sure the class would help too..but probably just sitting an practicing would be your best bet.
While I was in culinary school - we had to do 100 perfect roses to get a grade on them. If one of them was less than perfect, we had to scrape them off and start again.
Luckily, I had practice before going to school (I did it on the first try) - but some of the other people in my class had to work on it for 3 or 4 days (8 hour classes). By the end of it, all of our roses were perfect.
It truly is all about practice. I saw people with no experience making perfect roses by the end of it. Get yourself a piping bag, a TV tray, a sheet pan to put them on and sit down in front of the TV. You can practice while you watch your favorite programs.
Ok, I know I'm going to here about the tip I'm about to tell you, but I remember years ago when I couldn't get the curve either. So here goes....
I don't use the regular rose tips 104,102,103. I use the 60,61,62. They already have the curve. I have done it that way for years.
Like I say, I know the experts will probably think I'm nuts, but that's what worked for me. Give it a try. Let me know what you think.
Thanks for all the encouragement I so need to practice . I think to that maybe my icing isnt stiff enough either cause I put a little corn syurp in the icing so my roses would not have jagged edges so maybe Im putting to much of that in my icing. But I am going to try what BrandiBakes suggested .Also I will try the tips subaru suggested I will let you know what I think about those tips .
Ok, I know I'm going to here about the tip I'm about to tell you, but I remember years ago when I couldn't get the curve either. So here goes....
I don't use the regular rose tips 104,102,103. I use the 60,61,62. They already have the curve. I have done it that way for years.
Like I say, I know the experts will probably think I'm nuts, but that's what worked for me. Give it a try. Let me know what you think.
Ha..not from me! I use the "S" rose tip ALL the time! then I let them airdry and with a finger dipped in powdered sugar or a brush I will further "enhance" the petals! 
The S tip. I'll have to try that! I don't use a flower nail anymore. I have a bad left wrist that wont turn all the way like the right one, so I now use a bamboo skewer. It works much better for me, but I have to work fast so it doesn't slide down. Not such as bad thing, since when I take my time, I get too nit picky and tend to mess with it too much.
i like that subaru and r.b. suggested different tips. personally i dont really like the bc roses so i never really do them, but in the times that i did try, i began to realize, duh, maybe i had the wrong tip. there are so many that can be used and i had this gigantic one and it was all out of proportion. (here i was thinking there was only "ONE ROSE TIP".) try it with several different ones or sizes and you might find you have a winner!
The curve in the petal with the 104 etc is made by the angle of the tip to the mound. When first starting out the thin end of the tip is tipped inward to the mound. The next layer of petals is more upright until the final layer of petals where the tip is tipped outward, almost lateral to the mound.
Ok, I know I'm going to here about the tip I'm about to tell you, but I remember years ago when I couldn't get the curve either. So here goes....
I don't use the regular rose tips 104,102,103. I use the 60,61,62. They already have the curve. I have done it that way for years.
Like I say, I know the experts will probably think I'm nuts, but that's what worked for me. Give it a try. Let me know what you think.
Ha..not from me! I use the "S" rose tip ALL the time! then I let them airdry and with a finger dipped in powdered sugar or a brush I will further "enhance" the petals!
I do the same exact thing and I'm a Wilton instructor!
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