Mmf Is Hard Already! And Other Mmf On Cookie ?s

Decorating By icantcook Updated 9 Feb 2007 , 11:56pm by icantcook

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icantcook Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 4:02pm
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I know this has been addressed before, but I can't find the post about it. I made my MMF last night and put it in a plastic bowl with a tight fitting lid. Today when I got it out to play with my pasta machine, it is rock hard. I am trying to knead it enough to start rolling out, but it is crumbly. Last night, it was getting crumbly, but I just kept putting it back in the micro to warm it up a little, then it would get nice and pliable again, and I was able to work in most of the powdered sugar. Today when looking for the post about how to fix this problem, I figured out that maybe I wasn't supposed to work the whole 2 lbs of powdered sugar in, and maybe I did damage by reheating the MMF. Great - I know what I probably did wrog, but is there any way to fix it? Add liquid? Rub with Crisco?

In case it matters, I will be using this on NFSC for 5 and 7 year olds. (class valentine cookies)

And in case this little drama works out - do you add the luster dust into the fondant, or paint it on at the end? And if the MMF gets this hard sitting in a tight fitting container overnight, how does one let the cookies sit out to let the glaze/RI/Toba/Alice cookie icing dry without the MMF breaking a tooth?

Can you tell by my babbling that I am getting nervous? I may just stick with my same old same old NFSC and Alice Icing. But I want to expand my horizons... icon_confused.gif

Thanks in advance for any help you may offer.

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katy625 Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 4:09pm
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Well, the fondant can usually be salvaged by yes kneading in crisco and popping it back in the microwave. When storing the fondant make sure you put a good ol whopping of crisco on it then wrap in plastic wrap (then I put in freezer bag) then put into the airtight container. It still comes out a little hard so I pop it in the microwave. IF IT DOESN'T WORK for you and you can't get it to work you can always use the Chocolate Clay (I used it on my cookies in my pics!!!) you just melt 10oz chocolate, fold in 1/3 cup light cornsyrup then lay it on wax paper for a couple of hours then you can knead it up and use it as you would MMF! IT tasted soooooooooooooooo much better and you can dust with luster dust to make it pretty! You can use the Candy Melts too. But its all up to you. i hope it works out for you!!!!

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icantcook Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 4:31pm
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OOH that chocolate sounds good, and I bet it would be preferred more by the age group I'm amkeing this for. I love the shimmery effect you got on your cookes - that is the look I'm hoping for. Guess on the next rip back into town, I'll go get some chocolate. Thanks for the help!

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EverlastingSweets Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 4:54pm
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I actually keep my MMF in a freezer bag out on the counter, I've had it there for over a month, and it's kept very well, I have made sure to get as much air out as possible.
Katy, I love your pink/brown cake. I've never used the candy clay, once it dries, is it brittle? Also, on that cake, was that fondant? or did you use the faux fondant technique? Please share! That cake is simply adorable!!

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Wendoger Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 4:59pm
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Looks like ya got some good info already. Crisco should help...along with kneading. As for the luster dusts...you dont add it to the mix...it gets painted on (if you mix it with lemon juice or vodka) or you can dust it on dry.
Good luck!!!
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Naty Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by katy625

Well, the fondant can usually be salvaged by yes kneading in crisco and popping it back in the microwave. When storing the fondant make sure you put a good ol whopping of crisco on it then wrap in plastic wrap (then I put in freezer bag) then put into the airtight container. It still comes out a little hard so I pop it in the microwave. IF IT DOESN'T WORK for you and you can't get it to work you can always use the Chocolate Clay (I used it on my cookies in my pics!!!) you just melt 10oz chocolate, fold in 1/3 cup light cornsyrup then lay it on wax paper for a couple of hours then you can knead it up and use it as you would MMF! IT tasted soooooooooooooooo much better and you can dust with to make it pretty! You can use the Candy Melts too. But its all up to you. i hope it works out for you!!!!




Hi! Do you mix it in or sprinkle on top? Will it stick to the candy clay if it is sprinked on top?
Also, I am thinking of using candy clay out of white candy melts to cover cookies. The reason I'm shying away from using the candy clay is because I want it to be white and with the candy melts, I think it will turn out ivory instead. Any suggestions on how to make it white? Is there white I can add to it or can I mix it with white fondant to make it whiter? I am debating this b/c I know the candy clay will taste much better and not as sweet as the MMF but I want it to be white. Anyone have a white fondant-like icing I can use that is not as sweet?

Thanks,
Naty

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EverlastingSweets Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:11pm
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I had posted one yesterday looking for a tasty fondant, and think I have found it! I had people that liked the look of fondant, but to them and to myself, MMF is just too sweet.
I tried that recipe for European fondant, as while it was still sweet, it was not OVERLY sweet like MMF, I plan on kneading in some almond extract and I'm sure that will tone it down some more. I love the fact that it was so easy to make, I did have to add an additional 1/4 cup water once I was kneading it, (not to the first mixture where you add the shortening and the glycerin, but afterwards when mixing in with the powdered sugar) It came out so pretty, nice and shiny, good texture. I rated it 5 stars.

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Bull Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:15pm
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Is Luster Dust safe for children to eat? I've read the description of the dust, and from some of the ingredients, I was a little skeptical. I surely would not worry about eating it, but I didn't know about small children. Just wanted your thoughts. Thanks, Bull

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katy625 Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by EverlastingSweets

I actually keep my MMF in a freezer bag out on the counter, I've had it there for over a month, and it's kept very well, I have made sure to get as much air out as possible.
Katy, I love your pink/brown cake. I've never used the candy clay, once it dries, is it brittle? Also, on that cake, was that fondant? or did you use the faux fondant technique? Please share! That cake is simply adorable!!




No it doesn't get brittle. When you knead your chocolate use a little bit of crisco to make it more plyable and also when you do it keeps it soft! On the cake it was white chocolate modeling clay!!! thumbs_up.gif

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katy625 Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by katy625

Well, the fondant can usually be salvaged by yes kneading in crisco and popping it back in the microwave. When storing the fondant make sure you put a good ol whopping of crisco on it then wrap in plastic wrap (then I put in freezer bag) then put into the airtight container. It still comes out a little hard so I pop it in the microwave. IF IT DOESN'T WORK for you and you can't get it to work you can always use the Chocolate Clay (I used it on my cookies in my pics!!!) you just melt 10oz chocolate, fold in 1/3 cup light cornsyrup then lay it on wax paper for a couple of hours then you can knead it up and use it as you would MMF! IT tasted soooooooooooooooo much better and you can dust with to make it pretty! You can use the Candy Melts too. But its all up to you. i hope it works out for you!!!!



Hi! Do you mix it in or sprinkle on top? Will it stick to the candy clay if it is sprinked on top?
Also, I am thinking of using candy clay out of white candy melts to cover cookies. The reason I'm shying away from using the candy clay is because I want it to be white and with the candy melts, I think it will turn out ivory instead. Any suggestions on how to make it white? Is there white I can add to it or can I mix it with white fondant to make it whiter? I am debating this b/c I know the candy clay will taste much better and not as sweet as the MMF but I want it to be white. Anyone have a white fondant-like icing I can use that is not as sweet?

Thanks,
Naty



That is the problem I have been having....the only way I could make it WHITE was dust super pearl luster dust on it. If you look at my cake I didn't use luster dust and it came out Ivory (I used white chocolate chips) but on my cookies I used the same thing but dusted it with luster dust. NOW, if you don't like the shimmer and want a matt finish Im just not sure how to get the perfect "white". If you look in the round wedding cake gallery you will see a cake from Steady2Hands made from white chocolate clay. Even though its Ivory it is very beautiful!!!! Well, I'll find it and post it........................

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-photos_display_84_-141373.html

She also did the whole cake in white chocolate clay.

YES YOU CAN MIX WITH MMF! I have not done it but you can pm Steady2Hands to see how she did it!

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katy625 Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 5:40pm
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Is safe for children to eat? I've read the description of the dust, and from some of the ingredients, I was a little skeptical. I surely would not worry about eating it, but I didn't know about small children. Just wanted your thoughts. Thanks, Bull




Well, it is for decoration but me personally I don't see that it is dangerous. I don't see how the cake industry would make something that is used so much ON CAKES and EATEN that is toxic. You can always limit the amount that you use if you are worried though!

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Monica_ Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 7:23pm
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The luster dusts are defined as edible and non toxic. Some people argue it even so but I don't bother. Now, there are a COUPLE of colors which are VERY SPECIFICALLY marked as containing ingredients which are non edible and must be removed before consumption, but I can't figure out why anybody would use those to begin with. Those particular examples will be clearly marked with a warning such as

"Please NOTE: those colors indicated by * contain Iron Blue or Chromium Oxide and must be labeled "for decorative use only". "

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Bull Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 9:27pm
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Thank both of you so much. It makes chocolate clay so pretty, and I would like to use it. I was just a little skeptical about one of the ingredients listed, which was the first ingredient - Mica. In reading about Mica, I could never find where it is used for food, makeup, etc. I'm sure Wilton has done all the research. I would surely eat it, but I was hesitant about the two young grandchildren. Their mother is a ceramic engineer, so I guess I could get her OK before letting them eat the decorations.
Thanks, Bull

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icantcook Posted 9 Feb 2007 , 11:56pm
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I bring my 5 year old home from preschool, he tries the MMF, and immediately spit it back out. icon_surprised.gif I think it was more of a texture issue than flavor. He's used to buttercream and Alice's Cookie icing. So I figure my aching arms from kneading the darn stuff were for just exercise. Then the 7 year old came home and tried the white chocolate and the MMF on little cookies, and said he liked the MMF better.

So I made a 1/2 batch of 1 1/2 in cookies and topped 1/2 with MMF and the other 1/2 with white chocolate fondant. Then took the cookies into town to the hospital where I work and took a survey. More people in xray liked the MMF and more people in the ER (staff - not patients!) liked the chocolate. Also tested my dad and 2 other girlfriends. The chocolate won. I just need to adjust my NFSC recipe to not have any citrus extracts since chocolate will be on top. I'll save the MMF to practice a cowboy hat cake in the future, but the chocolate will be going to the class parties this next week. Thank you for your help!

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