Frustrated With Mmf? Here's A Tip...

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mbt4955 Posted 11 May 2009 , 1:40pm
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Mel, do you mind telling us how much glycerin/corn syrup you add? You add shortening too, right? I'm using the 16 oz bag of marshmallows and I would love to come up with something that works right the first time. Thanks! icon_biggrin.gif

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yamber82 Posted 11 May 2009 , 1:50pm
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thanks for the tip. i have made mmf 3 times so far. the white always turns out perfect but when i tried to color it black and some hot pink it started falling apart and had a really wierd texture and i had to keep adding crisco so eventually it looked ok but it still tore extremely easily. any tips on that?

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Kerry_Kake Posted 11 May 2009 , 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Melvira

I use a mixture of corn syrup and glycerine to try and improve the elasticity of MMF, it seems to work well. The only thing I don't like about MMF is the tendency to shrink because it's made of marshmallows. Mainly it's only an issue when you're covering cookies. You cut it out with the cookie cutter and it shrinks a little, and the cookie spreads just a tiny bit, so you end up with a larger, uncovered edge on the cookie. Annoying! icon_rolleyes.gif




Do you think lifting and letting go of your fondant will allow it to shrink first before cutting? Just a thought because I don't usually have the problem of it shrinking, I usually have the problem of it stretching when I move my fondant around.

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Kerry_Kake Posted 11 May 2009 , 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by yamber82

thanks for the tip. i have made mmf 3 times so far. the white always turns out perfect but when i tried to color it black and some hot pink it started falling apart and had a really wierd texture and i had to keep adding crisco so eventually it looked ok but it still tore extremely easily. any tips on that?




I have a harder time with darker colors also. Any thoughts on how to correct it? My question again, will glycerin help this problem? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Melvira Posted 11 May 2009 , 3:11pm
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Do you think lifting and letting go of your fondant will allow it to shrink first before cutting? Just a thought because I don't usually have the problem of it shrinking, I usually have the problem of it stretching when I move my fondant around.




That hasn't really helped. I think it's just the nature of the marshmallows to pull in a bit. Who knows. icon_rolleyes.gif But I still like it better than any other I've tried. thumbs_up.gif

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ericaplh Posted 11 May 2009 , 3:37pm
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can you add tylose to the mmf when sculpting figures to make it harden faster?

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Kerry_Kake Posted 11 May 2009 , 3:48pm
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can you add tylose to the mmf when sculpting figures to make it harden faster?




I can answer this one, lol. Yes, I add tylose powder to mine all the time to make gumpaste figures. It works great!!! thumbs_up.gif

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ericaplh Posted 11 May 2009 , 4:16pm
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thanks so much Kerry cake!!!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Eme Posted 11 May 2009 , 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by ericaplh

can you add tylose to the mmf when sculpting figures to make it harden faster?



I can answer this one, lol. Yes, I add tylose powder to mine all the time to make gumpaste figures. It works great!!! thumbs_up.gif




kerry_kake, Just out of curiosity, do you know about how much tylose you add to a batch?

I've done this many times, but never get the result I want - not like when using 1/2 gumpaste to 1/2 fondant!

Also, I add the glycerin to my mmf and have found the end result MUCH improved over basic mmf!! It is just a little softer and doesn't shrink nearly as much! I had the same problems as you, Melvira, with cookies, but adding glycerin gives me a smaller area of 'naked' cookie icon_lol.gif

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PJ37 Posted 11 May 2009 , 6:21pm
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EME wrote
"Also, I add the glycerin to my mmf and have found the end result MUCH improved over basic mmf!! It is just a little softer and doesn't shrink nearly as much! I had the same problems as you, Melvira, with cookies, but adding glycerin gives me a smaller area of 'naked' cookie icon_lol.gif[/quote]

How much glycerin do you add?

I have added 1 1/2 tsp gumtex to the small MM recipe. (1 c. mini marshmallows, 1 T. Water, 1 1/2-1 3/4 c. conf. sugar)...and it worked fine for gumpaste flowers and a bra cake.

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Eme Posted 11 May 2009 , 6:58pm
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PJ37, I add 1T per 16 oz/ recipe (takes one 16 oz bag mm).

I tried adding 1 & 1/2T tylose to one recipe of mmf and it didn't firm up for almost a week - wasn't even able to use the bow. icon_sad.gif
I don't know if it needs to be a smaller ratio or what...

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PJ37 Posted 11 May 2009 , 11:40pm
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Thanks EME. I'll have to try MMf with the glycerine and if I don't like that, I'll use the good old hydrogentated Crisco!

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Kerry_Kake Posted 13 May 2009 , 12:06pm
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Eme, did you add the glycerine with the tylose? Maybe minus the glycerine if you doing gumpaste. I don't usually measure when I add the tylose and I've never added it to a whole batch. But if I did I don't think 2T would be enough. You have to add a lot. And make sure your MMF isn't too soft to start with. Doesn't help much, huh?

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Eme Posted 13 May 2009 , 4:48pm
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Kerry_Kake,

No, didn't add glycerin to that batch, but also didn't use the whole batch, maybe 1/2? Still, I think you're right that I need to add a lot more!! I have gumtex too, maybe I should just use that.... seems to dry a little faster icon_confused.gif .... maybe just save my tylose for somethin' special

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Neelas_wife Posted 13 May 2009 , 5:28pm
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Yes Crisco does wonders with MMF....Thanks for the thread...I am going to try Melvira's idea of adding flavoring while melting the MM's icon_smile.gif

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Kerry_Kake Posted 18 May 2009 , 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by jeking

Although I like MMF, I have had problems with it tearing easily and cracking when applied to the cake. I have been using a commercial fondant that I LOVE. However, last night I didn't have enough commercial fondant for a project and made MMF. This time I didn't add any water while melting the MM's. Instead, I added 1/2 cup of Crisco which melted along with the MM's. I pour this mixture into my KA (dough hook only), added 4 cups of confectioner's sugar and mixed it until all the CS was incorporated. I put 3 cups of CS on my countertop and then scooped out the MM mixture onto it and began to knead it. A couple of times I scooped out about a tablespoon of Crisco and added it and kept on kneading. Voila! The fondant was perfect! It had a lot of elasticity and rolled out beautifully. Also, it didn't stick to the counter while I was kneading it!

Maybe I was doing something wrong before, but this method worked great for me...




I had to come back to this thread because I am thrilled!!! I tried this without the water yesterday and it worked PERFECT!!! Finally, elasticity! No elephant skin, no tearing, no stretching all apart! Just Perfect! I can roll it a lot thinner than I usually do so I don't need to use too much. And I find it not as sweet as before (I think because less sugar is needed because there is no water) thumbs_up.gif

Melvira- now I see what you mean about shrinking though. However I would rather have this problem then it always stretching and tearing icon_wink.gif

Thanks so much for this tip....I will never add water again!!!

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Melvira Posted 18 May 2009 , 2:17pm
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That's great news Kerry_Kake!

I have to admit though, I've never heard of putting water in it in the first place! icon_redface.gif I use flavorings and stuff (liquid) but have never put water in it.

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FlourPots Posted 19 May 2009 , 9:32pm
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Has anyone made MMF using butter flavored Crisco?

Is is worth trying? I remember reading somewhere (not CC) that butter flav. Crisco tastes gross??

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madgeowens Posted 20 May 2009 , 5:32am
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My mmf actually had too much elasticity......I could not get it thin enough, and when I finally did get it big enough to put on my carved car it squashed it down and flattened all four tires lol................my first two beginner batches were perfect....don't know what happened............

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