Wow! I've seen them use them on the cake challenges and on Ace of Cakes and I tried it over the weekend to model a few pieces for a cake top. So easy and so much fun! It was much easier than carving the recliner and tv I needed from cake! ![]()
I just started to use them with my cakes and they are awesome. So easy to use and they hold their shape well. I wish I had known of these sooner!
olana11, I just used them to model a chair and table. I just used the regular recipe from the box of RK. On Ace of Cakes, they built this huge dog using cake for the body and RK treats to form around the supports for the legs (and belly I think). It was really cool!
Okay, I'm going to throw a wench into this whole RK thing.....
isn't all this taking away from the actual 'edible cake'? Seems with fondant, RK, etc., there is not much on a cake to actually eat! I know all this new stuff is making the cakes awesome to look at, but how much is actually edible anymore? Or are most of these fancy ones just for show? Such as Duffs dog....how much was really edible since his cake looked so brick hard while he was carving it. I guess I don't get this. I just want a cake to EAT. Am I wrong or is cake decorating going to a new direction.
vickymacd........most people love to eat r.c. treats!! I made a treasure chest cake and the lid was r.c. treats......and I also made a cake with fairies with a r.c. treat mushroom on top........there was still plenty of cake to eat........just a little added bonus.....it was lightweight so it worked much better than forming the mushroom out of solid fondant.......I just frosted it and covered it in fondant and the kids were fighting over it!!! The treasure chest lid was large enough that everyone got to cut off a hunk and chow down!! I think it's fine as long as the main portion of it is CAKE since it IS supposed to be a CAKE. Otherwise it would be a carved Dessert not a carved cake. I don't think there is anything wrong with using them as an addition to the cake though. If the whole sculpture is r.c. treats.....then you can't call it a cake (or at least I wouldn't lol)
I know what you mean Vicky! I try to use as much cake as possible and only use r.c. treats for things that won't hold up in cake. I've done a dino cake with a simpler stand than Duff's and I put tinfoil under the head and cake on the top, instead of doing the whole head out of something non-edible.
I think rice krispie treat are pretty tasty anyway...especially with buttercream on them!
Courtney
I like rice krispie treats because it helps you not have to use styrofoam (which I DO think is cheating! haha)....
I usually calculate the serving sizes using only the cake, and the rice krispies are a bonus. As long as you are using all edible things, then it is an "edible creation" and people think that's cool.
The rice krispies additions seem like a good solution for dementional cakes areas that can be a problem. My question is, how much time do you have to work with it until it hardens on you. I know that I have made some just in the pan and it began to harden before I even had it smoothed out.
I have a dinosaur cake in my photos where I used RKTs for the neck and head and attached it with skewers to the base board (foamcore) and also to the cake. I iced it with BC and then covered in fondant. It was nice because as a dino, any imperfections looked "dino" and then the coloring helped too.
I'm making a shoebox cake next month and am thinking of using RK for the lid so it won't be so heavy and easier to transport. If I frost with BC and cover in fondant will it look ok?
I would just make a hollow box lid out of fondant for that, and let it harden... don't you think?
Kitagrl, But what about using RKT for things like the underside of a board? I'd be worried that they would fall off from the weight...which happened to one of Duff's cake decorators on the show. And how would you stick them to the underside??
The 3D dino in my photos I made 1 1/2 years ago before I had even heard of Winbeckler or Duff. I was just winging it with my own design. I'd love to figure out a really good method for this b/c people are always requesting sculpted cakes from me.
Courtney
Kitagrl, But what about using RKT for things like the underside of a board? I'd be worried that they would fall off from the weight...which happened to one of Duff's cake decorators on the show. And how would you stick them to the underside??
The 3D dino in my photos I made 1 1/2 years ago before I had even heard of or Duff. I was just winging it with my own design. I'd love to figure out a really good method for this b/c people are always requesting sculpted cakes from me.
Courtney
Your cakes are awesome!
I agree there are some times you have to use styrofoam...I just like to avoid it if I can. But for the undersides, yeah sometimes I guess you have to.
Sometimes you can hide supports in your design though.... like find a way to have a dino standing by an old tree stump or something, anything to hide a dowel in to where you can support a rice krispie head, etc.
I did use a little styrofoam in my shark cake, on his jaw. It was for my son so I didn't have to deal with a customer.
I'm making a shoebox cake next month and am thinking of using RK for the lid so it won't be so heavy and easier to transport. If I frost with BC and cover in fondant will it look ok?
I would just make a hollow box lid out of fondant for that, and let it harden... don't you think?
So you just make the top, bottom, and sides, let them dry and glue them together? Just want to be sure I'm understanding correctly. Thanks
I'm making a shoebox cake next month and am thinking of using RK for the lid so it won't be so heavy and easier to transport. If I frost with BC and cover in fondant will it look ok?
I would just make a hollow box lid out of fondant for that, and let it harden... don't you think?
So you just make the top, bottom, and sides, let them dry and glue them together? Just want to be sure I'm understanding correctly. Thanks
Right... I think there are alot of people on here who do it...I have not personally tried it yet but there is probably someone who has a tutorial on it.
Thanks Kitagrl! I LOVE your cakes too! The long neck on your dino came out great. It's nice to be able to do things like that and not have to use styro.
I know what you mean about hiding supports. I recently did a hamster cake (haven't posted it yet) that I cut a board for the head and I had dowels hidden in the hamsters body supporting the head board. It was a small cake so I only needed a little tiny bit of tinfoil for the chin.
Courtney
I haven't used RK treats for a "cake" yet...but I think that it's very creative and a great idea.....I suppose it's "cake correct" to make most of the cake out of cake, but hey, I will just hope the cake police aren't watching ![]()
If we can't use RK treats, then maybe we "shouldn't" be able to use fondant, floral stems, gumpaste or other things that help us do our best work !!
Wow - look at all the posts! Most people I find love RKT too! I used them to make a reclining lazyboy - there was no way I could have made that from cake to support a fondant person. The back of the recliner would have collapsed. I really don't see anything wrong with using RKT - I think it enhances the cake and lets you do things you wouldn't normally be able to do with cake. And it's edible! Yum! And like Kitagirl said you can shape and reshape if you have to.
Don't get me wrong....I love RK treats. And I understand that they mold to something too. But I guess I couldn't eat something knowing how much 'handling' someone was doing with them! Although they would never know! I also wondered how long before they got hard, but I guess long enough to sculpt with. Oh, just give me some cake and a little frosting and I'll stop.
I'm making a shoebox cake next month and am thinking of using RK for the lid so it won't be so heavy and easier to transport. If I frost with BC and cover in fondant will it look ok?
The lid on my gift box cake in my photos was made out of cardboard covered with gumpaste. That was really easy to transport and wasn't too awful heavy either. That might be something you want to try, unless you're set on having your lid edible.
Okay, I'm going to throw a wench into this whole RK thing.....
isn't all this taking away from the actual 'edible cake'? Seems with fondant, RK, etc., there is not much on a cake to actually eat! I know all this new stuff is making the cakes awesome to look at, but how much is actually edible anymore? Or are most of these fancy ones just for show? Such as Duffs dog....how much was really edible since his cake looked so brick hard while he was carving it. I guess I don't get this. I just want a cake to EAT. Am I wrong or is cake decorating going to a new direction.
I agree with you here. there is a tendency to now put to many things into the cake that are just NOT cake!
but, then maybe you're right..cake is going into a new direction.
and as charming and talented I think Duff is, I still just see him as a glorified "PLUMBER". ![]()
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