Pricing?

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IAmPamCakes Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 6:55pm
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AWhat is a 'design price?'

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tina0719 Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 6:55pm
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AThe bakeries around here charge anywhere from $5.50 - $15 per person

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IAmPamCakes Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 6:56pm
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ASo, a beginning price for you is $230?

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tina0719 Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 6:59pm
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AOn average most of the time. My cake orders lately have been no less than about $250 .

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jason_kraft Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 7:02pm
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A

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The bakeries around here charge anywhere from $5.50 - $15 per person

US dollars?

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tina0719 Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 7:04pm
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AYes US dollars. They are very pricey over here.

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jason_kraft Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 7:09pm
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Yes US dollars. They are very pricey over here.

I'm curious, where are you located?

Considering your design fee it doesn't sound like you're undercutting, for 30 people the price including the design fee is closer to $7/serving. Not sure why you separate the design fee instead of including it in the per-serving price though.

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tina0719 Posted 16 Oct 2013 , 7:15pm
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AIn Miami. I actually went to a bakery and asked themhow they priced their cakes. They told me $6.50per person plus depending on the design they average the hours it would take and charge about $15 per hour on top of that price.

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paigetx Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 2:20am
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Thank you for your post. It helps to see those thoughts in black and white to not feel badly about my prices.

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Norasmom Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 2:28am
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The only difference in a home bakery is that I don't pay employees/benefits…to me those two things add a bit to the price of a cake…

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jason_kraft Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 2:33am
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A[quote name="Norasmom" url="/t/760366/pricing/30#post_7463689"]The only difference in a home bakery is that I don't pay employees/benefits…to me those two things add a bit to the price of a cake… [/quote

When you run a home bakery, you are your own employee, and hopefully you are paid for baking and decorating.

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Norasmom Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 2:46am
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Yes, but I'm not paying another person, so it's my hourly wage only.

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jason_kraft Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 3:59am
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Yes, but I'm not paying another person, so it's my hourly wage only.

Whether you make the products yourself or pay someone else to make them, the labor cost (at least for the production component) should be equivalent. The biggest difference in terms of cost is typically the additional allocated overhead of rent.

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Norasmom Posted 17 Nov 2013 , 10:28pm
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and benefits…

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psychedelic666 Posted 13 Jan 2014 , 8:48pm
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My gf and I made this cake for my brother in law for free , I was wondering how much this cake would cost ??

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jason_kraft Posted 13 Jan 2014 , 8:53pm
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My gf and I made this cake for my brother in law for free , I was wondering how much this cake would cost ??

Depending on market value and number of servings it would probably be somewhere between $150 and $1500.

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howsweet Posted 14 Jan 2014 , 1:24am
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Another difference is that a larger bakery can get bulk pricing, a small home baker doesn't.  A larger bakery also can be more efficient, making large batches of icing, batter, larger ovens, etc so that they can be more efficient than a smaller baker.  So a small baker will likely have greater expenses in some categories.

I agree.

 

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The only difference in a home bakery is that I don't pay employees/benefits…to me those two things add a bit to the price of a cake…

 

 

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Yes, but I'm not paying another person, so it's my hourly wage only.

Not just hourly wage. It's your hourly wage plus profit over that wage.

 

And this is why pricing should never focus on costs. This is a very simple concept if you just think about it for a minute: Price should be determined solely by the market pricePeriod.  A reasonable person charges as much as he can for his product. (I shouldn't even have to say that.)  If your costs are such that market prices wont allow you a true profit, then it's not a viable business.

 

Then you are a cake making service and reducing others to the same fate because you've lowered prices. And good luck ever having a storefront after you've contributed to bringing down the market in your area. Obviously,  I have no clue whether you dream of a storefront one day, but this is for anyone reading this.

 

If cost is the important factor, then people without a house payment should charge less for cake, right? If they do that, eventually only people without house payments will be able to make it in the cake business.

 

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Whether you make the products yourself or pay someone else to make them, the labor cost (at least for the production component) should be equivalent. The biggest difference in terms of cost is typically the additional allocated overhead of rent.

True

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momo4s Posted 9 Jun 2014 , 3:22pm
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I agree!

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