I am taking Wilton Course II now and we just practiced roses. I have a good base knowledge of cake decorating and roses. My grandmother taught me to make a rose base with my rose tip not tip #12. I do not start with a cone shaped blob. When my instructor went to show us how to make a rose, I didn't start with the blob and she snapped at me when I stated that I was more comfortable with the way I had been doing it. I have tried both ways and I like this way. I don't think it is right for her to be so short with me. My question is, does anyone else make their roses this way? Am I the only one?

I can't believe she (instructor) did that!!!! I think you should do what you are more comfortable with!

I learned the cone way because I took the wilton course. I wish I knew your way with the rose tip so I wouldn't have to fill two different bags!

maybe someone else will know your way.

Who cares HOW you do a rose as longas you can do a rose?? This Wilton Instructors job is to teach you the basics and encourage you to grow, not snap at you because you already knew how to do something differently than what she taught!

Debbi

While I don't think she should have snapped at you, being an instructor I can see her side of it. I start all my Course 1s telling my students that since this is a Wilton class we are going to be learning the Wilton way. I do let them know what there are other ways of doing things, and there isn't one that is more right than wrong, but just different.

When you have a student that is doing something a different way it can be distracting to both the instructor and other students. We are suppose to teach the Wilton way of doing things. So if someone else is doing something different and the other students see and want to learn how, then often what we are trying to teach gets pushed aside.

If you look in the older yearbooks (70s) there are some directions for doing the rose using only the 104. I've seen it done on toothpics with out making the base as well.

I was taught using just the rose tip

i used to teach wilton and they usually push thier instructors to teach everything the same way. They would like thier classes to be uniform. So although i don't agree with the way she handle it, i do see her point.

I've never made one using the rose tip, but I would think that however you can do them best is the way you should do them. I can understand her needing to teach the "Wilton method" since that is her job, but everyone has their own way of ding things.

By no means am I knocking the Wilton way or the instructors, but I say what is best and most comfortable for you is how I would do it. I tried learning the way my Wilton instructor wanted me to and just couldn't do it so all I use is the 104 tip

Here is an article with step-by-step instructions, and a downloadable step-by-step video on making buttercream roses:
http://www.cakecentral.com/article25-Getting-Started-with-Buttercream-Roses.html

So just smile and say "uh huh " and then turn around and make them your way behind her back!

All I can say is at least you can make them! I can't even do that!

My aunt let me borrower her 73 and 74 Wilton Books. Both of those use the 12/104 for a rose. So if an older Wilton book used only the 104, it is earlier than these. I could probably imagine how it would work tho using the 104 straight up with the wide end at bottom with heavier pressure than to do petals and turning maybe?

I am an instructor and as stated by others, we are suppose to show ONLY the Wilton Way. I absolutely DO NOT agree with her being snappy! I always tell them, this is the Wilton Way but there are other ways. When I see someone become frustrated that they can't do it by using the way stated, I say try with the directions given and then adjust to what feels and works right for you.

PS> The reason they use the two different tips is because they say it's easier for a beginner to have a good solid base before adding petals. I usually have my students use two bags fitted with #12 and other a #104, then they don't have to switch tips.

Do what works for you

Rose

My Wilton instructor showed us how to do it on a stick. When she showed us the Wilton method, she used the rose tip, but said it's easier if you use the round tip. We were free to do whatever method we wanted.

I watch the Food Network a lot, and I've seen a bakery where they do this. I can't remember which one. I also saw where they have an actual tip glued to the flower nail and they use that as the base. It was neat.

I'd just do it her way in class and ignore her. She sounds cruel and mean. You poor thing!

I taught myself how to make roses by the Wilton yearbooks. I never realized there was another way to do it, never thought about doing it differently I guess. Anyway, I certainly do not agree with any instructor being snappy. You are there to have fun while learning how do decorate cakes. Also, I always use just one bag of icing and switch tips. I use disposable icing bags so this cuts on my waste and also on my clean-up (not having that extra coupler to deal with).

Thank you all for your support. I appreciate those of you who are instructors letting me know why she might have been that way. I really left that class not knowing if I would be able to go to the next class. I guess I'll do it her way The little devil in me doesn't want to since she was mean. LOL

Hi Momofjil

I am also making my roses with two ways.
Like you said with rose tip 104 and Wilton method.
In wilton method they also doing Rose base with rose tip 104.
But after using blob tip 12 then they make another center petal with tip 104.
And we just make center base with tip 104.
Both ways is right.
But I think making blob and then center petal is giving our rose some height thats why our roses are looks good.
Now I am comfortable with Wilton method.
If you are comfortable with your grandma way then stick with it.
Good luck

Nitu

Piped right ? I usually do Gum Paste, which to me is much easier. And it keeps much longer and looks a LOT more realistic and prettier...but that's just me..

Evelyn Moore of Elk Grove , CA

'UNDER GOD " will stay....

I started out 33 years ago with the 2 tube method. Now, I can't be bothered. I just use the rose tip. But the best roses I ever made were with the Hershey Kiss as a base. I keep meaning to make some royal icing bases to start with, but I keep forgetting.