practiceandpatience Posted 22 Aug 2009 , 2:25pm
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I am unable to find tylose anywhere. Can gum-tex be used in place of tylose??

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costumeczar Posted 22 Aug 2009 , 4:43pm
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I think it's a similar type of gum. Try it and see it the gumpaste hardens up enough. It should be fine, isn't that what's in the Wilton gumpaste?

You can get tylose online at different places, I get mine at cakedeco.com

lecrn Posted 22 Aug 2009 , 4:51pm
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I've used both gumtex & tylose in my fondant. I can't really tell the difference.

HamSquad Posted 22 Aug 2009 , 4:58pm
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Yes you can use gumtex in fondant. I use it all the time in my fondant flowers, just use some gumtex in my fondant swags and picture frame from my last cake to test it out. It works great! I will have to try the the tylose one day. HTH
Hammy

tracey1970 Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 2:42am
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I use gum-tex all the time too as I can't get tylose so easily. Works fine. I use the gum-tex powder mixed with water to make my gum glue rather than waiting for tiny pieces of gumpaste to dissolve in water. I also mix it with fondant to make a harder fondant piece without using gumpaste.

Loucinda Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 3:12am
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They both do the same thing, gum-tex is a little darker in color than tylose (which is bright white)

dandelion56602 Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 3:13am
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I use tylose all the time & it works fine. Never used gum-tex, but pretty certain they do the same thing.

Jeff_Arnett Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 3:45am
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Originally Posted by practiceandpatience

I am unable to find tylose anywhere. Can gum-tex be used in place of tylose??



Go to eBay and search for "carboxymethyl cellulose"....that's the actuall chemical name for Tylose. You will be able to purchase a much larger amount for less money than you would when buying those little containers from a cake supply. I can usually get about a pound for under $20 and that will make many batches of gum paste.

I've never liked gumtex....paste was never white enough for me nor would it dry hard enough....but to each his own!

practiceandpatience Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 12:36pm
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thank you so much everyone!!

pbeckwith Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 3:14pm

Can you use the gumtex or tylose in regular MMF to make flowers? Is there a lot of difference in that and the gumpaste?

MrsNancyB1 Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Arnett

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Originally Posted by practiceandpatience

I am unable to find tylose anywhere. Can gum-tex be used in place of tylose??


Go to eBay and search for "carboxymethyl cellulose"....that's the actuall chemical name for Tylose. You will be able to purchase a much larger amount for less money than you would when buying those little containers from a cake supply. I can usually get about a pound for under $20 and that will make many batches of gum paste.

I've never liked gumtex....paste was never white enough for me nor would it dry hard enough....but to each his own!




Ditto. I got a HUGE bottle of CMC, which will last me ages, for only $11. It wasn't a pound though, but still quite big.

HTH.

HamSquad Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by pbeckwith

Can you use the gumtex or tylose in regular MMF to make flowers? Is there a lot of difference in that and the gumpaste?



To your answer, can you use gumtex or tylose in regular MMF to make flowers? Yes, Just tried it, works great, just let your MMF dry in the air Longer, for a day or two. Gumpaste dries rock hard, MMf or fondant dries hard, but there still is a slight softness to them. HTH

1nanette Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 9:10pm

I have never used tylose before but I am about to purchase some to make bows I need for a wedding cake this weekend. How do I use it and do I need the make my own gumpaste or can I buy pre-made????

dandelion56602 Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by 1nanette

I have never used tylose before but I am about to purchase some to make bows I need for a wedding cake this weekend. How do I use it and do I need the make my own gumpaste or can I buy pre-made????




I usually just sprinkle it on my fondant (I've used pre-made, MMF, MFF) and knead it in. I also have made Nick Lodge's gumpaste & it's wonderful. http://www.nicholaslodge.com/gumpaste.htm. It's really easy to make & so great to work with! You'll love it I know!

seeshores Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 11:24pm

dandelion56602

I tried to make that gumpaste recipe but it didn't work for me it just fell apart what do you think I did wrong?

CutiePieCakes-Ontario Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by 1nanette

I have never used tylose before but I am about to purchase some to make bows I need for a wedding cake this weekend. How do I use it and do I need the make my own gumpaste or can I buy pre-made????




Wilton sells a bag of pre-made gum paste, if you don't want to bother with making it, especially if it's the first time using it. That's all I've done so far. Just make sure you seal the bag up tight, or it will go rock hard.

alanaj Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 11:44pm

seeshores

The first time I made Nic Lodge's I had trouble too. I posted about it on here and actually got a response from someone who either works with him or knows him. Apparently he saw the post and asked her to help out, it was great! The second time I made the recipe it was beautiful. When I first took the Wilton courses the teacher said that our powdered sugar in Canada has more of something in it (can't for the life of me remember what) so we need to add more liquid to our recipes (for royal icing, etc.). I thought maybe that was the problem so the next time I made Nic's GP I started out with about 3/4 of the p.s. the recipe called for and didn't add the reserve one cup. To be honest I kind of eyeballed it as it was mixing and stopped when it was a little soft. It's a lot easier to knead more p.s. in if you need it. I hope my rambling isn't too confusing! Let me know when you try it again how it works out for you.

Alana

seeshores Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 11:53pm

Thank you Alana

Yes my wilton instructor told us the same thing...I think she said our sugar had corn starch or something like that in it.....so yes I didn't even think of that.

I will let you know how it turns out....thanks again

dandelion56602 Posted 23 Aug 2009 , 11:57pm

I too was going to say to much powdered sugar. It's like when you make any type of sugar icing/frosting go a little less then add more if you need it. I always pay attention to instructions that tell what consistancy to look for---like "soft peak RI" in step 6. So, I would try less PS. it will be like really stretchy fondant.

I couldn't get the link I posted to work. If you can't just type nick lodge gumpaste recipe into your search engine & you should be able to find it.

HTH

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pbeckwith Posted 24 Aug 2009 , 7:23pm

I just picked up some gum-tex today. I'm ready to start!!! I'll mix up my MMF tonight and be ready to do some experimenting tomorrow. Thank you for all your tips and I'll let you know how it works out for me.

xstitcher Posted 24 Aug 2009 , 7:30pm

I saw this thread and thought this link might come in handy:


Whats the Difference??? Tylose PowderCMC PowderTrag Powder.Gum Tex
http://thesugarlane.com/2009/05/12/whats-the-difference-tylose-powder-cmc-powder-trag-powder-gum-tex/

HTH!

craftycookie Posted 30 Nov 2012 , 9:39pm

i tried to make some mmf and i bought some gumtex to use as a substitute for tylose. the fondant mixed with gumtex became very crumbly( best description i can think of) and i thought gumtex is supposed to make the fondant elastic, but there is no elasticity at all after adding the gumtex. please help i dont know if i'm supposed to add gumtex then let it sit or can i use it like tylose where i can add it and mold right away. also this is the first time i made mmf and i didnt add gum tragacanth just marshmallows and powdered sugar. the gum tex i bought looks darker than tylose and smells sour(like vinegar), is that normal, i thought maybe i bought an expired product. if anybody can explain how i'm supposed to use gumtex with marshmallow fodant to make characters and figures i would really appreciate it. thank you.

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