Uhhh... Glycerin Is A Suppository?!
Decorating By shoup_family Updated 11 Jun 2011 , 1:21pm by shaekae81
I'm trying to make Michelle Foster's fondant. Glycerin is an ingredient that is calls for. Someone on cake central said it was in the health food section at Walmart. I couldn't find it so I asked and they said they no longer carry the liquid only the SUPPOSITORIES!! So, can someone help point me in the right direction of what I should be looking for.
Thanks!
Glycerin is an ingredient in a lot of things- suppositories being a big one. Soap is another one..You can get food-grade glycerin from Wilton in the cake decorating section of Michael's or Hobby Lobby.
Wilton makes it, and sells it in a bottle that looks like this:
http://www.wilton.com/store/site/product.cfm?sku=708-14&CMP=AFC-CCF
I know that Walmart has downsized the Wilton area in some stores, so maybe that's why they don't have it any more.
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I found a bottle of Humco Glycerin in the baby section. It says it's a skin protectant. It was much cheaper than Wilton's. Do you all think it's food safe?
I found a bottle of Humco Glycerin in the baby section. It says it's a skin protectant. It was much cheaper than Wilton's. Do you all think it's food safe?
doubt it.
unless specifically sold as a food additive, then don't assume it is safe.
I found a bottle of Humco Glycerin in the baby section. It says it's a skin protectant. It was much cheaper than Wilton's. Do you all think it's food safe?
If the intent was not for food, I suggest not using it.
I asked a pharmacist if it was food safe (the kind in the bottle that says it is for skin) and she said no. But that would make a yummy laxative....
here is a web site with some info on Glycerin:
http://www.cleaning101.com/oleo/whygly.cfm
K
ROFL thinking about using suppositories in fondant. Some people think it tastes like A$$ anyway...
The FCC or the Food Chemicals Codex is an internationally recognized compendium of monographs covering food ingredients. It contains specifications for many direct food additives, such as glycerin. The Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences developed and maintains the FCC. The FDA also supports this compendium. The specifications for food grade glycerin given in the FCC are generally comparable to those given in the USP.
sounds like food grade and USP are the same....?
ROFL thinking about using suppositories in fondant. Some people think it tastes like A$$ anyway...
I just shot coffee thru my nose....literally!! rotflmao!!!!
also.....
In all applications, whether as a reactant or as an additive, the virtual non-toxicity and overall safety of glycerin is always of significant benefit.
I asked a pharmacist if it was food safe (the kind in the bottle that says it is for skin) and she said no. But that would make a yummy laxative....
I think I'll just stick with wilton's. I don't want my cakes to be that kind of memorable.
My kids would LOVE it if I gave them fondant instead of bran muffins when they were constipated!!
I think I'd stick to the stuff packaged for food use, you don't know how different the handling is for the preperation of the stuff for other applications. They might not have to be quite as clean as a food plant might be.
You wouldn't buy animal grade corn or oats either.
I was trying to do as much research on the Glycerin USP versus food grade and this is what I found.
[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/21120580/Why-Glycerin-Usp
[quote]The abbreviation USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia, a document first published in 1820 by the Medical Society of New York State. Recognized as official by Congress in 1848, this document was used as a standard reference by physicians for prescribing medicines. Today, the USP includes chemical descriptions, identifying tests, and purity tests, primarily for active ingredients. All materials listed in the USP are considered drugs by law and subject to all the U.S. Food & Drug Administration requirements pertaining to drugs. Labeling a product or a substance as USP implies that it conforms to all the legal requirements of the FDA and that it was produced in accordance with the principles outlined in FDAs Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP)[quote]
[quote]The Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences developed and maintains the FCC. The FDA also supports this compendium. The specifications for food grade glycerin given in the FCC are generally comparable to those given in the USP
Heres a thread from 2009 about glycerine. All4cakes states she contacted Humco to find out if their glycerin is food safe. From the Reps, I don't really care if I'm talking to you, response to all4cakes, I'd never buy their brand, food safe or not.
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-645763-.html
From Humco website. I did a search on thier products list. Humco glycerin is listed under health and beauty, no mention of food use. Here's a break down on Humco glycerin, USP FCC
http://www.humco.com/assets/pdf/1031-Glycerin.pdf
I get mine at my local cake shop, its sold in tubs the same size as a 500 gram cottage cheese. Its also at my local Michaels. I don't think I'd buy it anywhere else as I'd worry about it being unsafe, and end up never using it.
Oh ha ha! I just this moment noticed the date this topic was started! I'm guessing by now, its been looooooong figured out!!
When purchasing Glycerin for your cake mixtures, please make sure to purchase USP labeled Glycerin. ('') USP means it has been approved for direct food additive use. Do NOT purchase Technical Grade Glycerin for your cakes. Technical Grade does not have the additives that makes Glycerin safe for consumption.('')
Also, ask for Vegetable based Glycerin. This will ensure you are using safe ingredients.
I found a good site that has the certificate of Kosher, the USP labeling, and they meet the requirements for safe Glycerin use in food applications. They sell it in 1 gallon Glycerin USP containers directly online.
Vegetable Glycerin
Food Grade Glycerin
Hopes this helps you out.
You think that's bad? I love using mineral oil to oil my rolling pins and season my wooden cutting boards. I like the mineral oil because it's tasteless, doesn't have a smell to it and never goes rancid. Where can I find it?? In the LAXATIVE dept at the drugstore!
The least expensive food grade glycerin I've found is at stores that sell wine-making supplies.
If you ate a spoonful of the wilton glycerin you would have a nice smooth bathroom experience too. It's technically the same, only the Wilton woudl be a more pure form.
LOL
A bakery / candy supply store has food grade FDA approved glycerin and if you use enough you can buy it in the 1 gallon jug for like $39.00 the small bottles of Wilton only allow enough for 1 recipe of Micheals fondant with a little bit left over so Wilton's is quite expensive that way.
Good luck.
I live in Germany and get my glycerin from the local pharmacy in my village. The pharmasist told me they use it as a laxative and was confused on how I would use it in baking...lol But the amount in MFF that makes 5 lbs of fondant is not enough to give you the runs...lol
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