How To Make "bigger" Cakes

Decorating By countrycook Updated 16 Feb 2006 , 9:27pm by Loucinda

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 1:39pm
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I know this is a weird question and probably simple, but when I bake off a regular from scratch vanilla or chocolate cake and bake them off in two rounds, they turn out only to the level to the top of the round cake pan, which isn't very tall. I see some cakes on here that are like at least 4-5" high! Do you just put one batter in one round to make it taller? Like the wedding cakes? You don't have like 5 layers of rounds in there do you? I don't want to overflow the round pan if I bake off the whole batch of cake in one round, either.

Just needing to know the secret! Ha! Thanks a lot!!

P.S. I use the from-scratch recipes from Magnolia Bakery for their vanilla cake, which I've had the most success with in taste and texture.

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stephanie214 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 1:59pm
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Hi countrycook,

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What is height of your pans?

When you torte your cakes, that will give them height also.

Try collaring your pans and add more batter. The collaring will stop the cake from over flowing and give you nice soft edges.

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hn87519 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:03pm
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Colette uses a cake board when the cakes get too high. I wouldn't go more than 3 layers of filling before you start taking a risk.

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:04pm
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I'm thinking it's a 2" height for the pan, maybe less. It's almost like a pie pan! LOL. How do you collar the edges?

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MrsMissey Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:08pm
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Here is a link to the article regarding collaring pans:

http://www.cakecentral.com/article43-Collaring-Your-Cake-Pans-Make-A-Deeper-Cake.html

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cashley Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:10pm
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I use a 3" pan for my cakes and then torte which is a tall cake. Here is the link for collaring pans

http://www.cakecentral.com/article43-Collaring-Your-Cake-Pans-Make-A-Deeper-Cake.html?osCsid=33c571be9d373d7374315960874aeff3

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:16pm
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Great idea! Thanks! I will do that, then. I'm making a chocolate cake tonight and might just try doing that, then.

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Phoov Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:16pm
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Hi countrycook~ I haven't tried the collaring, but my cakes are nice and tall. Like someone mentioned, torting will give you some height, but it sounds to me like you don't have enough batter. I would try doubling my receipe and baking 3 rounds instead of two. You could either have 3 layers, or freeze the extra. I use enhanced box mixes alot, adding extra eggs and oil, and I have plenty of batter to make a nice tall cake (which I might torte-or not). GOOD LUCK!

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:23pm
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Cool, now what is torting?

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luv2cake Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:24pm
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For wedding cakes I just bake 2 cakes that are 2" tall. Then you can torte them if you wish, or not. You end up with a tall cake of about 4-5 inches depending on the filling and if you torted or not. This is the most common practice for wedding cakes I believe.

I have never collared a pan before so I can't say anything about that.

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hn87519 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:25pm
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Cutting the layer in half and filling it with buttercream or a filling.

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stephanie214 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:31pm
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countrycook,

Sorry that I didn't add the directions for collaring or torting icon_redface.gif

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:32pm
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Yummy! What could be better than more frosting in the middle of the cake! LOL!! Thanks so much for the techniques to help with this! I will definitely be practicing these tonight! I'm not sure if I have parchment paper so might have to wait until I get to the store for that this weekend, but I think I'll try the torting, though. We are getting a snow storm here in Iowa today so I don't want to venture out in it! LOL!

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beachcakes Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:34pm
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Just an FYI - scratch cakes will not rise as high as a cake that starts from a mix. Either just add more batter to the pan and bake a little longer, or make an extra layer.

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stephanie214 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by countrycook

Yummy! What could be better than more frosting in the middle of the cake! LOL!! Thanks so much for the techniques to help with this! I will definitely be practicing these tonight! I'm not sure if I have parchment paper so might have to wait until I get to the store for that this weekend, but I think I'll try the torting, though. We are getting a snow storm here in Iowa today so I don't want to venture out in it! LOL!




I use wax paper to collar and it works great thumbs_up.gif

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countrycook Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 2:39pm
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That's what I thought, too. From scratch cakes are a little heavier. I might be better off just putting the whole batch in one pan and it will probably equal out to normal size! icon_lol.gif

I think everything from scratch is a little heavier, come to think of it! My husband was just commenting last night how my from-scratch biscuits are heavier than the store-bought ones (but I think the from-scratch ones are so easy to put together and bake up and less expensive!). My mom ruined it for me, she would always buy the cheapy biscuits from a can and burn them on the bottom and we would still have to eat them! UCK!!! So now, I have no desire for the canned ones because I can't get that taste out of my mouth! LOL icon_sad.gif Poor mom! icon_razz.gif

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dodibug Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 7:49pm
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I just collared my pans for the first time about 2 weeks ago and loved the results. Someone posted the tip to put just a dab of batter on the paper so it will stick to the pan and the paper when it is wrapped around and it worked great!

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briansbaker Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 7:51pm
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i did that for the first time the other day..it works wonders!!! especially if you add the cake extender recipe!

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stephanie214 Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 8:46pm
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Isn't it great...no more crumbs in the corners icon_lol.gif

I also line my bottom thumbs_up.gif

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dtmc Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 8:55pm
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What is cake extender recipe? I'm curious. icon_razz.gif

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swoboda Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 9:11pm
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I collared a pan for the first time last week and it was so easy to do & gave a nice high cake. Just make sure you bake it at lower heat & for a longer time so it bakes evenly! I used the instructions from this site that have already had the link posted by others.

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Loucinda Posted 16 Feb 2006 , 9:27pm
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Cake mix extender recipes make the batter fill the pans fuller so you have a bigger cake from the mix. They are wonderful and work perfectly! Just do a search on here and they will come right up for you! (you basically add more ingredients to a cake mix - sour cream, eggs, flour sugar etc.)

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