Paperfishies Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 12:40am
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I'm no buddy Valastro or duff, I'm still learning but there is not a snowballs chance in hell that I could replicate one of these cakes and only charge $45, i'd be losing money.  She is a friend of a friend, she texted me and asked if I could make the cake and how much would i charge.  She wanted the cake to feed 40 people.  After sending me pictures and telling me that she was quoted $45 and $55, I told her that it breaks down to $3.50 per serving...she said "oh wow that is high, sorry I can't afford that."  So I told her it was no problem and to have a great day.

 

 

 

these were the cake pics she sent me...minus the Minnie head.

 

 

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IAmPamCakes Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 1:18am
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AHey. If you can't make money, why make it? That is why we're in business, right? You are right to have turned her down.

melanie-1221 Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 2:06am
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I get that a lot in my area.

Sadly it won't be the last time you get a ridiculous request like this.

You were VERY wise to turn it down.

I accepted a request like this once in the very beginning just so I had another cake to add to my portfolio.

I made no money, in fact it cost me money, then I started receiving calls from people she had referred to me who were also expecting ridiculously cheap cakes due to the fact she told everyone how much she paid. NOT the market I was trying to hit. Lesson learned...fast! thumbs_up.gif

embersmom Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 3:37pm
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What I get a kick of is that we get customers who come to us asking if we make sculpted cakes or similar because they think that, if we do (which we don't), it'd be cheaper getting it from us than from an independent decorator.

 

Um, no, it wouldn't.  If we did those kind of cakes, they'd collapse at the markup we'd put on them!

 

You've got to chuckle at the disparity.  People either don't honestly understand the labor involved, or they understand it, but they want to pay as little as possible.
 

Jimmyca Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 4:15pm
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The cake ingredients along would cost that much! Crazy.

scrumdiddlycakes Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 4:34pm
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Most people's cake experience is buying a mix and a can of frosting for $5, and spending about 5-10 minutes 'decorating' it. They really just have no idea .

I had one lady get really upset with me for what she called an 'absurd quote' on her wedding cake and ranted about all the bakers in towns being 'greedy thieves'. Usually I just keep it professional and wish her luck or whatever, but this time I sent her my own cost breakdown, before labour. She wanted to pay me half of what the ingredients, supplies and business expenses would have cost me.

She was pretty shocked, lol. The reply I got back was, "Omg! $52 of just butter!? I had no idea..."

 

Now whenever I get a request like this or someone surprised by the cost, I try and break it down a little and explain the reasons.

Jimmyca Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 5:32pm
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It's all about educating your customer. Like you stated... not many people are familiar with the costs involved to make a good product. They are used to buying cake mixes for $1.99, frostings and commercial cakes (by the way, what;'s in those frostings?...lol). When you actually break down the costs for ingredients it does add up. However, the end result is so much worth it. I rather buy a cake made from scratch than a store brought brand.

ellavanilla Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by scrumdiddlycakes 

Most people's cake experience is buying a mix and a can of frosting for $5, and spending about 5-10 minutes 'decorating' it. They really just have no idea .

I had one lady get really upset with me for what she called an 'absurd quote' on her wedding cake and ranted about all the bakers in towns being 'greedy thieves'. Usually I just keep it professional and wish her luck or whatever, but this time I sent her my own cost breakdown, before labour. She wanted to pay me half of what the ingredients, supplies and business expenses would have cost me.

She was pretty shocked, lol. The reply I got back was, "Omg! $52 of just butter!? I had no idea..."

 

Now whenever I get a request like this or someone surprised by the cost, I try and break it down a little and explain the reasons.

 

I'm glad you sent her the follow up. Did she apologize for calling you a greedy thief? As if you're only in business to ruin her day...

kikiandkyle Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 6:54pm
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Wow now that's rude. Talk about the 'no cake for you list'! 

Baking Me Crazy Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 7:01pm

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Original message sent by melanie-1221

I get that a lot in my area. Sadly it won't be the last time you get a ridiculous request like this. You were VERY wise to turn it down. I accepted a request like this once in the very beginning just so I had another cake to add to my portfolio. I made no money, in fact it cost me money, then I started receiving calls from people she had referred to me who were also expecting ridiculously cheap cakes due to the fact she told everyone how much she paid. NOT the market I was trying to hit. Lesson learned...fast! ;-D

I made the same mistake doing this. Got my business nowhere and I ended up discouraged. Now, I've learned that I cannot compromise and my work is worth more than that. Yea, I've lost a few customers, but I'm not losing money out of my pocket to give them a deal.

meriem Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 7:05pm

AOnce I attempted to 'educate' a friend on ingredients costs, then she said to me 'well just don't buy ingredients from expensive supermarkets (Waitrose in the uk) go somewhere cheap???i don't even shop there, I didn't know what to say was just shocked. Where do you want me to go shopping, where do you buy your cheap groceries from? They seriously have no clue

kikiandkyle Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 10:03pm

Please friend, tell me where this supermarket is that sells butter for 5p a pack. 

ellavanilla Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 11:16pm

My sister just called, she needs a dessert for tomorrow. I told her the price, she said, maybe i'll just buy a pound cake from the place down the street. i said it sounded like a great plan.

IAmPamCakes Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 11:39pm

AJeez. Isn't it most painful when your own family doesn't want to support you? Not that they don't try, but just saying they'll go somewhere else kinda stings.

ellavanilla Posted 8 Mar 2013 , 11:58pm
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Jeez. Isn't it most painful when your own family doesn't want to support you? Not that they don't try, but just saying they'll go somewhere else kinda stings.

 

LOL but I didn't want to do it anyway! She only needed a simple dessert for a family dinner, something she could have made in her own oven in half an hour, but she didn't want to spend her Friday evening on it, and frankly, neither did I.

IAmPamCakes Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 12:00am

AOh, ok. So in this instance it's really no big deal. That's better.

scrumdiddlycakes Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 12:28am
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I'm glad you sent her the follow up. Did she apologize for calling you a greedy thief? As if you're only in business to ruin her day...

Other than the "$52 of butter" line, never heard another thing from her.

I was pretty miffed, but also pretty glad she didn't turn around and ask to order from me :)

barrycake Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 1:37pm

I was at walmart the other day and they had a plain 10 in cake for 38.00 bucks. Sorry but she is crazy she needs to get what she can afford.

remnant3333 Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 1:50pm

I always thought Publix cakes tasted pretty good.  The other day I was in there and they had one piece of cake for a couple of dollars so I bought just one piece of yellow cake with chocolate frosting to try it just to see how it tasted. It was terrible. It was not like I remember years ago when I use to buy Publix cakes. Guess they use cheaper ingredients now. A store bought cake will never measure up to a homemade cake for taste!!! I was really surprised that their cakes tasted so bad!! Never again will I buy any cake from them!!!

handymama Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 2:06pm

Good cake isn't cheap; cheap cake isn't good. Base price in my area for wedding cakes is 2.50-3.00 per serving. One of mine is 9.00 and so far this year I have two ecstatic brides who have ordered it. My base price is 4.50 because I got tired of being angry every time an undercharged cake went out the door.  I'm by far and away not the best decorator in the country or on CC, but I'm the best in the region. I've paid my dues both in time and money learning my craft, and discerning customers can tell the difference. I don't know if it's okay to post my website here, but I'll try since I haven't added photos to CC in ages. Site is: www.toptiercakery.com

Moral of the story: hang tough

MsGF Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 2:21pm

HandyMama your cakes are lovely.  Very nice.  I agree with everyone else too.  Get proper compensation for your efforts and work.  Even if you have to turn people away.   If you don't you will only get discouraged and bitter.  We shouldn't expect any less.  Other professions want the same.

 

Happy Baking

handymama Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 5:19pm

Thanks MsGF

esohe Posted 9 Mar 2013 , 6:28pm

Sorry I have to laugh, but that must have being a joke right?

sugarjones Posted 10 Mar 2013 , 2:08pm

The smash cake for $45? No problem :-)
 

LoriMc Posted 12 Mar 2013 , 7:27pm

Hilarious.  I love it when people send me pics of Pink Cake Box cakes and then want me to do it for $50.  I so feel your pain.
 

costumeczar Posted 12 Mar 2013 , 10:00pm

Oh hell no.

LoveMeSomeCake615 Posted 13 Mar 2013 , 1:56am
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Hilarious.  I love it when people send me pics of Pink Cake Box cakes and then want me to do it for $50.  I so feel your pain.
 

Oh my gosh, yes!! What is it with people looking at those PCB cakes and thinking, "Sure, that'll be cheap!" dunce.gif

IAmPamCakes Posted 13 Mar 2013 , 2:00am

AMaybe they should call Pink Cake Box and ask what they would charge.

LoveMeSomeCake615 Posted 13 Mar 2013 , 3:48pm
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Maybe they should call Pink Cake Box and ask what they would charge.

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ibeeflower Posted 13 Mar 2013 , 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by IAmPamCakes 

Jeez. Isn't it most painful when your own family doesn't want to support you? Not that they don't try, but just saying they'll go somewhere else kinda stings.

My boyfriend's mom offered me $10 for a cake for her daughter. That wouldn't even cover the ingredients! She wanted a strawberry cake made with strawberry puree, filled with strawberry SMBC, and covered in chocolate ganache. 

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