I don't know that there is an ignore list per say, but if you look at the top of this page there is a link for it. As far as the people here who tell people there is only one way to do things, that is wrong. Don't tell people to never use shortening in buttercream because some sites and members recommend it especially when serving a cake that will be out in the heat and sun for a long time. Don't tell people that your way of making vanilla is the only right way. It's very frustrating that there are so many people who do things differently and I am reading people insisting that their was is the only right way. And if you open your eyes and your mind you may find that you learn things from people who have a new perspective on things, if not try to teach them and not preach to them. I never said my way is the only or correct way to do things, but I do read it from a lot of people who obviously think highly of themselves. And am I gonna shut up because I'm a new person here, No, this aint my fist rodeo as far as forums go. Believe it or not, I'm a very nice person, but I'm not pushover.

This forum is populated by some very helpful experts who spend a great deal of their time sharing their considerable knowledge. It's also populated by very helpful new members who are very experienced cake people, or business people, who share as much as they can. It's also populated by people who are able to express their opinions with respect.

If you have done any reading on older threads, you'll see that the debate over butter/shortening icings has been very well hashed out in the past, and that many people will agree with your opinion. You don't need to take the advice of anyone here, especially anyone whose posting style you dislike. If something's working for you, great!

Someone who has been a member of many forums should realise that it's always prudent to hang back a little at first, and really get a feel for the culture of the forum, which is different in each case, and to respect the knowledge and experience of some of the longer standing members (referring here to others, not myself).

SoFlo, I will come out and say what others are too kind to say, since you addressed me:

First of all, as I posted in another thread, many of us in the business and scratch baking forums, where I mostly post, are either very experienced, or look up answers to make sure that we give the best possible answer. We care and work hard to give the right message.

I have found on many of my posts over the past two weeks, that you will reply to one of my researched, detailed explanations with just the opposite, seeming to pull the answer out of thin air with no credible source.

When I and others try to give the best possible answer, we have no problem with another opinion in a debate-like response. Usually, a poster will have another point of view and we can all agree to disagree, providing the readers with several opitions to consider for their own situation. These opposing views are credible and provide another option.

But when every single post is just random weird messages that have no backup source, it gets irritating. There are new people on here who don't know the difference between those of us who either have experience or who have taken the time to research the answer for an OP and other readers of the thread and those responses with no credible merit.

It is confusing to new readers when the opposite response is given just for the point to be opposite.

And since you post on almost every thread, your posts are unavoidable.

Welcome to CC and I hope you find your niche here. Please take the time to think about your responses and make sure they provide good advice because it is a subject that you know about. You have stated that you are new to baking and decorating. But soon enough, you will have experiences that you can report. These are the posts that are helpful.

I forgot to address your other references to me.

First, I said that I don't use shortening in my buttercream. I did not say that people who use shortening are bad people. This is not personal. If I opened a shop that was priced for the mainstream market, I would probably cut my buttercream with some shortening.

Now the big one. I'm sorry, but your information about extract was incorrect on many issues. You came on there like an expert and you clearly are not. Matthewkelley and I both tried to explain. Yours is flavored vodka. Sorry, it is not extract by any stretch. Your insistence on being right doesn't help those who really want to do it right.

I happen to be an expert on vanilla extract. My extracts will be marketed nationally by the end of this year. I had a wholesaler approach me and the first batches are "brewing". It will meet FDA standards in my FDA kitchen.

Because of that post, many members have pm'd me about the ratios and they got them.

Please stop acting like people who rebutt your posts are somehow out to get you. But as many CC members know, I will state the correct information if it is an issue with a clear-cut answer, like vanilla extract. This is getting old.

Trying to scare new members from posting so you "experts" can all agree as to what tastes best when it's actually a matter of taste and opinion and has no right answer, and telling people that there is only one way, your way, to do something. Does that work for you?

I think I'll avoid whatever conflict is going on and actually address the question posted by the OP.
The answer is....there is no 'right' answer. Some people love fondant, others don't. I've had fondant that is delicious...but I prefer real butter buttercream on my cake. I think those that have issues with fondant find it's not so much about taste as it is texture.

Fondant, while it can be quite yummy, is more chewy than most people expect so it may take some aback and they'll claim they 'hate' it when they're just used to biting into creamy buttercream on their cake. I use fondant as decor and most of it gets eaten so something must taste pretty good. I actually have found that the fondant takes on the flavor of the buttercream so it blends pretty well together.

Taste is in the mouth of the beholder! (thinking of turning that into a bumpersticker )
Now the rest of you can get back to arguing about whatever you're arguing about.

Good grief.

You are dead wrong about the extract. Please stop saying I'm wrong. How many pm's do you have asking for the ratios? That's what I thought. I probably have 100. Please learn to use google. You would be disqualified from this debate. Random information that doesn't pertain to the topic is not a rebuttal.

And don't cut out pertinent parts of a post to make a point. That's playing dirty. The thread was, "What is YOUR go-to buttercream for cupcakes?" My response was MY go-to. I'm allowed to have a favorite just like everyone else.

And by the way, you can go to Federal prison for copyright/trademark infringement. Just one more of your posts that provided completely incorrect information after Jason, me, and many others explained with researched information from official sites.

If you are going to debate, please look up your answers instead of passing them off as expert. Or just a quick google will find what those of us who quote law have already looked up.

And please, if you are going to attack me, remember, every CC member can click on my profile and see for themselves that you intentionally tried to misquote me for your own purposes.

If you look closely at the threads where you have posted, quite a few members have politely asked that you make your posts relevant to the topic and to make sure the post adds to the discussion.

You just validated my response in your post. Thank you.

I just saw a few other threads where people who responded asked you to stay on track or at least offer a valid answer.

Please learn to use google. It will save you from typing long posts that are incorrect, just like the one above.

In my three years on CC, I have never seen such weird responses. It's like you try to start something. At least most debates offer two valid sides. Your responses are just out there.

Wallet in the refrigerator...

Offering an answer to your own threads with a response that showed that you never really needed advice in the first place.

Call yourself anything you want.

And by the way, no wire hangers is a relevant response to what is your go-to hanger. What is your point?

To those who want to know about extracts, pm me. I have had many successful pms from people who use my formula and are thrilled with the results. I have given out the recipe to those who have asked at least 100 times to people who asked me in a pm. And I am not talking out of my hat. It is rather simple to find the answer online. But I also provide a great source at a reasonable price with beans that are the best tasting I have ever had.

For those of you wondering why I am responding rather than ignoring, it comes back to my earlier post about google searches.

This persons incorrect information about facts will eventually be a google search result.

Someone like you great CC members will look up a subject and many times, a CC forum post will appear as a result. That is how I found CC a few years ago.

When someone looks up a subject, SoFlo's answer may be in the mix. But the correct response will also be there. That is why in many of my posts I repeat to look up information on official sites. When someone gets conflicting information, especially on legal issues, I hope they get the suggestion to find the true answer themselves.

So no, I'm not feeding this issue. I'm just trying to make sure that correct information is available. Some of us have worked hard to provide research. We don't need off the wall responses clouding the issues.

I have no problem with people who don't agree with me. I actually enjoy it and respect those who offer another opinion. They sometimes get mad, but I never get mad back. These debates offer great information.

But some issues are not up for debate because they are law or a physical fact. Of course we can debate whether or not we agree with the law, but statements like you can't go to jail over copyright infringement are just plain wrong.

Those who want a replacement for store-bought extract have a right to know how to make the equivalent. There is no law against using flavored vodka, but for those truly wanting a substitute, they should be able to get correct, easily verifiable answers, not wrong answers backed by long drawn out fluff.

I tired to be nice, but you showed your true colors and that tells me that my first instinct about you was right. I've run into people like you, where you try to call a truce and they let their pride get in the way. Very unreasonable for no reason, they will carry a grudge to their grave So be it, it's just funny how you try to hide behind trying to save Google as if they need you.

Thanks again mcaulir.

Oh Geez, you just lost a member. I am not posting here anymore. Going to my other forum to post. Too much drama here. I've been a member of moderated forums before and left because it is a power game that the moderators play. Ends up being confrontational and power struggles.

My other forum is not moderated and everyone has a great time, and respects one another.

Bye.

SoFlo, I thought you were an expert on everything. I clearly stated all of the European buttercreams. Google, google, google, before you put your foot in your mouth again.

And you have already insulted many people today on other threads. I thought you were leaving. Oh well, one can only hope...

Really...who cares? I tried to follow along just because I am on my couch recuperating from surgery and thought it'd be interesting, but honestly I guess I'm not scientific enough to follow it all.

I understand the comment though, and I am certainly paraphrasing, about certain people having a bullying effect. I am NOT saying anyone on this thread is, just agreeing. I've always said, even to myself, if you want to find a bully, try the Weight Watchers forums!

Anyway, this may be the vicodin talking, but can't enough be enough?