ok so i posted 2 days ago asking about how to work out working in a bakery possibly 2 afternoons a week and then doing cakes as there ordered. i kinda figured out that ill work hourly and then set a price with her depending on the cake orders. so i go in yestardayto "work" / get to know her and the place a lil better, she was amazed at my cake picture but then....... in the kitchen i see shes useing un doctored mixes and i had told her oh i have a way to make them a lil nicer i made a WASC cake and she was like you put salt in baked good i said yes you need salt to react with some of the other ingredents and she thought i was crazy ??? am I??? im pretty sure thats how it works!! ok so we go on and the cake is "salty" and tooooo sweet!!! to her i think it was fine but ok i could put less sugar if that was it. then i see her making iceing (please also keep in mind this is her first bakery she said she did it out of her home for 5 years but the bakery is 3 weeks old) sooo this iceing its the consistancy of pudding theres no thickness at all!!!! i was ok i watched her try to ice a cake with a mayo spoon you know the ones they sell to get the mayo at the bottom of the jar , lets just say it wasnt pretty!!! so i showed her to use the spatula it goes quicker and looks nicer and she was like oh ok and she kept with the spoon!! then she tried to tell me about indydebis buttercream is toooo sweet i dont know what she thought i could bring to the table if she only wants her crap!!! shes nice and the place is perfect for me as a bakery its funky and fun and i really need a place to do my cakes but im not sure what to do !!!!! help!!!!!!!!! im going in today to show her how i make my rose cake so we will see what happens!!![/b]

If it were me I'd tell her if she wants cakes that look like your pictures you have to use your methods. If she wants cakes with soupy frosting she needs to continue doing them herself.

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Sounds to me like she doesn't know what she's doing....How in the world was she able to go from working at home, to having a bakery, if she can't even make a basic BC right? I have never heard of anyone icing a cake with a spoon.
I would ask her to sit down with you, so you can to over, again, what she is looking for, and what you are looking for. If she is not going to allow you the chance to do your work, the way you do it, then she isn't someone you want to work for.

I don't understand how she could get this far without even knowing the basic BC recipe. (I know there are many variations) She could learn a lot from you, but she would have to be willing to let you do things your way. Good luck with this. It may be too many cooks in the kitchen.

I don't understand how she could get this far without even knowing the basic BC recipe. (I know there are many variations) She could learn a lot from you, but she would have to be willing to let you do things your way. Good luck with this. It may be too many cooks in the kitchen.

I don't understand how she could get this far without even knowing the basic BC recipe. (I know there are many variations) She could learn a lot from you, but she would have to be willing to let you do things your way. Good luck with this. It may be too many cooks in the kitchen.

Wow, this is a sticky situation for you. By far seems you know more than her and could teach her some things, however, it is her shop. Not sure that I would stay.

I agree if she wants cakes that look like your pictures she needs to let you do what you are most comfortable doing.

Wow, this is a sticky situation for you. By far seems you know more than her and could teach her some things, however, it is her shop. Not sure that I would stay.

I agree if she wants cakes that look like your pictures she needs to let you do what you are most comfortable doing.

Wow, this is a sticky situation for you. By far seems you know more than her and could teach her some things, however, it is her shop. Not sure that I would stay.

I agree if she wants cakes that look like your pictures she needs to let you do what you are most comfortable doing.

Wow, this is a sticky situation for you. By far seems you know more than her and could teach her some things, however, it is her shop. Not sure that I would stay.

I agree if she wants cakes that look like your pictures she needs to let you do what you are most comfortable doing.

Wow, this is a sticky situation for you. By far seems you know more than her and could teach her some things, however, it is her shop. Not sure that I would stay.

I agree if she wants cakes that look like your pictures she needs to let you do what you are most comfortable doing.

Run. Fast.

It's one thing to be helpful...but when you clearly are teaching her a thing or two...I'd say, the bakery doesn't seem like it's going to be successful. I'm not sure how long it would take for you to get a bad feeling with all the help your giving. It may as well be YOUR shop. It's like somebody writing a song they don't get credit for....

I agree with everyone's comment, I also did not know how she ran a business for so long, out of her home what kind of people was she baking for? LOL maybe she feels ashame that she is the one that owns the bakery, and does not really know how to make cakes, so she does not want you to get all the credit, maybe she contracted someone else to bake her cakes back then and she got a percentage of it, there is a bakery in my town that contracts someone to make their wedding cakes, I would watch the situation and be very careful.

I agree with everyone's comment, I also did not know how she ran a business for so long, out of her home what kind of people was she baking for? LOL maybe she feels ashame that she is the one that owns the bakery, and does not really know how to make cakes, so she does not want you to get all the credit, maybe she contracted someone else to bake her cakes back then and she got a percentage of it, there is a bakery in my town that contracts someone to make their wedding cakes, I would watch the situation and be very careful.

Say no, save your money, and when she goes out of business buy it from her.

Holy cow.... hunny, you need to "GIT!"

If she has only been open for three weeks and her skills are as you say they are I would back off and wait, she is not going to be open very long. The place may be yours soon w/out the crazy mess.

Oh...my...

Run away! Run away fast!

Others have said it too...save your money, you may be able to buy that bakery when she fails!

I would NOT want to associate myself with someone like that. It may seem like a great opportunity, but if you're stuck working her way, you'll screw yourself.

I can't believe she doesn't use salt in anything!!! Salt is like the lifeblood of ALL cooking. I don't make ANYTHING without at least a PINCH: I don't care if it's cake, frosting, pudding, cheesecake, fruit compote, pastry cream, whatever. There is always at the very least a PINCH of salt in everything (and I did NOT need to wait until I went to culinary school to figure that out)... it brings out the flavor. She'd probable DIE if she saw me make my steamed strawberry salad (that uses salt and white pepper, among other things) to serve with plated desserts. This woman obviously knows NOTHING about food!

Run Forest Run.....

HAHAHAHA you guys really kknow how to put a smile on my face!!!!! i went in today and she said that she wants me to make some dummie cakes to display and then when she gets cake orders in she'll call me. we worked it out she provides the place and supplies and we split it 60 / 40 (i get 60 percent) i feel thats fair for now and this helps me save cause im pretty sure she wont last!!

HAHAHAHA you guys really kknow how to put a smile on my face!!!!! i went in today and she said that she wants me to make some dummie cakes to display and then when she gets cake orders in she'll call me. we worked it out she provides the place and supplies and we split it 60 / 40 (i get 60 percent) i feel thats fair for now and this helps me save cause im pretty sure she wont last!!

Market your cakes with "Krissy's Buttercream" in the store so people get to see that it is associated with you. Insist on it. EVERYTHING you do should have a label like that. If you are going to continue there, brand differentiation is critical. You are a brand. Remember, Martha's name is on everything that even walks by her, usually more than once. Otherwise, in six months, she learns all she can and gives you the boot. You open up next door and sell the real Krissys Cupcakes.

thanks matthewkyrankelly thats a great idea!!! i make labels up!!

She might keep the cake dummies and fire you...get business from people who look at your cakes and think she made them. Especially if all the orders that come in are for your cakes and not hers. You also might get a bad reputation from working there.

This might be one of those cases where the good opportunity isn't really as good as it seems to be.

If you could make a product she wasn't making, maybe decorated sugar cookies, then people would be able to tell which one came from who...but if you're both baking cakes then she'll get the credit for your good cakes.

I agree that this doesn't sound like a good deal for you.

But on the salt issue, I stopped adding salt to any dessert recipe YEARS ago. My first husband had a high blood pressure issue, so I was cutting any and all salt wherever I could. Never missed it. So now it's just a habit. Any sweet or dessert recipe that calls for salt, I just skip over that. I figure I don't salt a brownie when I eat .... I'm not going to salt it before I bake it. Been doing that for 30 years.

At least I figured out why bakery chocolate chip cookies always tasted salty to me!

I also just cringe when I watch cooking shows and they put (what looks like to me as ) SO MUCH SALT in any dish (sweet or otherwise). I'm one of those people who is very insulted (oh let's quit being polite about it ... it pi$$es me off! ) if you automatically salt the food I put in front of you BEFORE you even taste it. Salt should enhance the flavor, and when I cook, I put enough salt in it to enhance the flavor ... any more than that and you're killing my cooking!

Been there, tried that and don't do it!

hmmmm....... thanks for the great advice!!!! im going to think on this looooong and hard this weekend