nocentstar Posted 28 Nov 2005 , 9:10pm
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Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone has broken the SugarVeil recipe. I saw it on a show the other night and just think it's the most amazing product!!! I found the website and it costs $12 for a 1 lb. bag, but I figured I'd just ask around and see if anyone knows the recipe to make it myself.

Also, has anyone actually used it before? Doesn't look difficult, but then a lot of easy-looking things turn out to be a bit difficult, so if anyone has used it and has any tips, I'd certainly appreciate it!

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prettycake Posted 28 Nov 2005 , 9:22pm
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icon_biggrin.gif You know, I posted a new forum on Sugar Veil months ago and I never got any reply...I also saw this on TV months ago and I thought it is very interesting..The kit or tool cost at least $250.00...

I would love to know or hear from someone that has done it..
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MelC Posted 28 Nov 2005 , 9:48pm
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I have ordered the kit, but I don't have it yet! I'll post a review of the product once I've had a chance to play with it a bit!

TickledPink Posted 29 Nov 2005 , 1:35pm
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I haven't made it yet but I think I have the recipe.

Anyways, I plan on experimenting with it this week/weekend.

As soon as I try it out and have the results in I'll be happy to share. I just don't know if it's going to work yet or not and I don't want to share bad information.

I have never been able to get their website demo to work, so I really don't know much about the product other than the pictures from their website. I can't figure out why they charge so much for the icing machine? And what's up with the comb?

emilyg Posted 2 Dec 2005 , 5:32pm
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Hi guys!
Thought I'd send along some answers regarding SugarVeil Icing.
!. You don't need the Icing Dispenser to use it - just use the finest tip you have, or simply a parchment cone. The point is to use very fine lines so you can get great detail. The Icing Dispenser gives you thiner lines than most people can pipe, and has an electric pick and place tool to pick up dragees, and you can use it with piping gel, ganache, buttercream, flow consistency royal icing, etc., but it's not mandatory for using SugarVeil.
2. We designed the tiny notches on the Confectionery Comb to do different kinds of lines/effects (see http://www.sugarveil.com/confectionery_icing/comb_techniques.htm), but if you have a metal tiny notched spreader (hardware variety - used for spreading mastic/glue), you can use that as well.
3. If you can't see the demo, maybe your browser (esp. AOL and IE) is set to not view pop-ups - the demo on the site is a Quicktime movie. You can click the webmaster on our site and ask specifics if you need more info on how to temporarily reset your browser to enable the demo movie.
4. We've been having a ball lately spreading SugarVeil out really thinly, letting it set, and then using decorative scissors to cut the "fabric" into skirts, shawls, bows, and hats to decorate gingerbread people and cookies.
Thanks! Emily at SugarVeil http://www.sugarveil.com/gingerbread.jpg

Tex Posted 5 Dec 2005 , 9:42pm
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Hi -

I tried to access the link Emily posted and got an error - but I did find it, so thought I'd post it for everyone while I think of it.

http://www.sugarveil.com/confectionery_icing/comb_techniques.htm

About the demo, you do need to allow pop-up windows to see it. It's only a Quicktime movie, but when you click on the link, the window is a pop-up.

Anyway, the stuff is really, really interesting.

Tex

beany Posted 7 Dec 2005 , 10:37am
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Thanks for the info~ looks like a great product.

TickledPink Posted 7 Dec 2005 , 2:00pm
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For the record, I tried my recipe and it didn't turn out like theirs. So my suggestion is buy the product and see how it is.

I think the only disadvantage I see to it is that everything appears to lay flat. It doesn't appear to be able to stand up vertically.... but I think it's really cool.

cakefairy18 Posted 7 Dec 2005 , 2:19pm
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I don't get what it is yet?? A tool to make the icing really thin?? The site looks really confusing

emilyg Posted 7 Dec 2005 , 3:46pm

Hi again guys!
"SugarVeil" is the trademark for our SugarVeil Confectionery Icing, a unique icing that you can stencil onto parchment, pipe directly onto the cake, or comb into lines that "set" after a period of time to flexibly shape around the sides of a cake. It's a dry mix - you just add boiling water and beat for a few minutes - to get a glossy white mixture that is also great for building dimension to monograms. Smooth the SugarVeil over a monogram stencil and allow to partially "set" a few minutes to form the base for the monogram. Then immerse a piping tip into the base and build up the monogram vertically for dimension like the "Tribute to Vera" cake at http://www.sugarveil.com/gallery/wedding_cakes.htm
Another way to get dimension is to apply SugarVeil thickly over a scroll or other stencil and lift the stencil slowly - you'll end up with softly sculpted, dimensional shape to the scrolls (ask www.designerstencils.com for the SugarVeil C171 collection that's not yet up on their site - a special collection of scrolls, vines, leaves, and edgings for ribbons made especially for SugarVeil. They also have great monogram stencils). "SugarVeil" also applies to our Icing Dispenser and our Confectionery Comb (see above reply), as well as to our "Dessert Garnishes" cake decorating DVD.

FunnyCakes Posted 8 Dec 2005 , 12:06pm

I've heard that the ingredients are probably marshmallow-based, although I haven't tried to duplicate the recipe. But it makes sense. Marshmallows are gelatin - so it would stay flexible.

Maybe some of our 'experts' here could experiment and share their results.

Regular MMF can be heated and will become pliant -but I'm sure that recipe needs some tweaking.

Think along the lines of a texture similar to marshmallow creme - and soon - we'll all be using flexible piping.

MainCake Posted 8 Dec 2005 , 6:38pm

Not to detract from the many beautiful things you can do with SugarVeil, but it looks like it would make an awesome spiderweb for Spiderman cakes!

jeannewade Posted 11 Oct 2012 , 1:40am

Hi everyone. I have used sugarveil and it is a very good product. I use it for things that I can't make out of fondant or gumpaste, things like clothes, fabrics, lace. If you used fondant, it would harden to much and then break when you tried to put it on the cake. When using Sugarveil, it remains pliable enough so that you can pick it up and lay it on the cake. You can even re-position it. For instance, I made a baseball shirt and when I laid it on the cake, I was able to change the way it laid or the way it was folded without it breaking. It's a great product but very expensive. You don't need the dispenser. You can spread it without the spreader and the mats are OUTRAGIOUSLY expensive. You'd have to use it a lot to justify the expense. All in all though, there is no product that gives you the flexibility of Sugarveil. I really like it.

Shasha2727 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 7:09pm

Hi Emily- I just did my first SugarVeil work, and really loved it!  I don't have the budget for the molds and tools yet, but used an old fondant lace mold & had super results! My lace is still flexible 10 days after making it, and I have left a test peice out just to see how long it will stay that way. I also piped line drawings of flowers, and made netting, mesh & lots of other stuff. It just takes a minute to mix, and a little bit goes a LONG way.  I would love to make the 'fabric' and wonder if you have any suggestions on how to do that without the mold.  What can I use as a base for this? I tried on a sheet of parchment using a metal bench scraper but couldn't get the thinkness right.  It's really fun stuff & will be getting more soon, and would love to make big SugarVeil ribbons & more.  Thanks, and best wishes!  

emilyg Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:42pm

Thanks for the update, Shasha. Really good that you're trying so many different techniques. To make fabric and if you don't have one of our Confectioners' Mats to use the back of (we designed them so you don't have to grease), just use any silicone mat and grease it with a Crisco or Trex-like solid fat before spreading with SugarVeil. Tool-wise we do some pretty fancy pants tools that produce all kinds of amazing results (like edible burlap, for example), but you certainly don't have to use these tools to get some pretty interesting results with SugarVeil. Here for example, are two techniques that are very cool and require only a toothpick to do: 'Sketched' SugarVeil, which looks like a really impressive brushed embroidery but is done off-the-cake (the how to is here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150554888474893.398966.58910664892&type=3):

 

AppleMark

 

 

 

 and marbleized SugarVeil - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150303705259893.357487.58910664892&type=3:  

 

AppleMark

 

Lots of other mini-tutorials are in the 'Albums' section (click 'Photos', then select 'Albums') on our page at http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing. Also - speaking of spider webs (hint), there will be new techniques posted on that page in the next weeks which will knock your socks off (as well as an Icing Dispenser giveaway), so stay tuned to our upcoming Facebook posts.

 

One more note regarding making SugarVeil fabric - you mentioned using (greased) parchment. It rumples from the moisture in SugarVeil, but makes for a great seersucker:

 

AppleMark     

 

 

 

If you'd rather have a smooth fabric that resembles silk or satin, use a silicone mat as a base for spreading SugarVeil to make the fabric:

 

 

 

 

Have fun, and let me know if you've any questions - thank you!

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 4:20pm

AOkay I being through the website and I try 2 recipe home made and they turn out a mess so I came up with the idea of trying to do it with the gummy recipe and it worked more then the others ..[IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3111224/width/200/height/400[/IMG]. Try it and have fun with it..

Carrie789 Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 4:57pm

ninasonrisa, could you post the url for the gummy recipe? Thank you!

shanter Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 4:57pm

http://cakecentral.com/t/46177/how-can-i-make-a-flexible-icing-similar-to-sugar-veil

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/32371/i-think-i-may-have-cracked-the-sugarveil-recipe-maybe

Carrie789 Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 5:26pm

ninasonrisa, is this the recipe you used?

http://cakecentral.com/b/recipe/Gummy-Spider-Webs-with-marshmallows

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 6:29pm

Ahttp://m.cookeatshare.com/recipes/homemade-gummi-candy-557963. This is the recipe that I used gave me for 3 of the ones I posted already 3 baby 3d and 3 long ones [IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3111334/width/200/height/400[/IMG]. [IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3111335/width/200/height/400[/IMG]

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 6:31pm

AWhen u work with it I found you have to be fast it will dry quick and if it does warn it up for 20 seconds on the microwave.. tomorrow I'll finish the cake and I'll post the finish cake and see how it looks ...

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 6:38pm

AChanter I would have try that one but could not find the tylose. Where I am I need to order everything in line n it gets expensive so that's why I try 2 other recipe with no luck until I started thinking of gummy bear lol.. all I spent was 2 dollars on the ingredient.

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 6:39pm

ASorry shanter...

ninasonrisa Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 6:40pm

ACarrie I add the url for the receipt of gummy.. hope it works out for you guys let me know if it works

Carrie789 Posted 30 Sep 2013 , 10:48pm

Thank you!!

ninasonrisa Posted 4 Oct 2013 , 11:26pm

AI did not forget about you guys here is the cake practice that I made with the gummy recipe for lace was very easy to work with it .. [IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3113871/width/200/height/400[/IMG]

[IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3113872/width/200/height/400[/IMG]

anavillatoro1 Posted 4 Oct 2013 , 11:50pm

AInteresting

Carrie789 Posted 5 Oct 2013 , 1:38am

Thank you for posting your picture. Think I will give it a try.

Shasha2727 Posted 10 Oct 2013 , 2:42am

These are gorgeous!; The smooth ribbon is my favorite, and resembles pulled sugar requiring long periods of pulling blistering hot materials.  I know SugarVeil is worked cold, with no real muscle required, and a little goes a long way.  I am doing lace for a wedding cake using SugarVeil in a fondant lace mold, and the lace has come out great even in extreme humidity. SugarVeil is quite versitile, there's so much you can do with it, I've really enjoyed just trying different things with molds and tools we all have. It obviously has a long shelf life; I had the first small package I ever purchased in my garage storage area for 2 or more years before finally working up the nerve to try it, and it couldn't have been easier to work with. Why did I wait? Thanks for the images....

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