To Crust, Does The Bc Need To Be Thick?

Decorating By elisaber Updated 5 Dec 2012 , 4:53pm by cupadeecakes

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elisaber Posted 22 Nov 2012 , 7:29am
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I've always just figured that for buttercream to crust nicely, it has to be rather thick. This has caused me some problems before, because I find it hard to apply to the cake nicely.


Then I remembered that what decides if buttercream crusts or doesn't crust, is the sugar to fat ratio in the recipe. Does that mean that as long as the ratio is right, you can thin the bc to the consistency you like (using milk etc.), apply it to the cake, and then find it crusts well? Or does the fact that you add more milk "mess up" the sugar to fat ratio somehow, and cause the bc to not crust so nicely? Any thoughts would be most welcome, thank you :-)

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Dani1081 Posted 22 Nov 2012 , 1:49pm
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You can thin it as much as you want, within reason, and it will crust if the ratio is correct.

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remnant3333 Posted 22 Nov 2012 , 2:02pm
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for spreading on the cake it is easier if it is thinned out  just a little but for making flowers it is better to be thicker so your flowers will hold their shape. Dani 1081 is right that it should crust either way if made correctly.

What butter cream recipe do you use?

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elisaber Posted 22 Nov 2012 , 5:12pm
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Thanks, guys. remnant, my buttercream is 1 part butter, 2 parts powdered sugar, a couple of teaspoons of vanilla extract and just a little bit of milk. I think I will try to use some more milk then, and hopefully it will be fine :-)

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remnant3333 Posted 27 Nov 2012 , 1:05am
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If you thin yours out it will probably go on the cake better but don't thin it out too much. You can just add extra liquid a little at a time and just see how it goes.


This is the recipe that I use below for butter cream.


2/3 cup shortening (I use Crisco in the blocks)

22 tablespoons butter

1/4 - 1/2 cup heavy cream (I start by using 1/4 cup first)

2 teaspoons vanilla extract

2 lbs powered 10X  Cane Sugar

1-2 tablespoons light corn syrup


I also heard that Indy Deb's butter cream is a good one to use also. I have not tried her recipe yet but one day I will.


Mix shortening and butter till well mixed. Add 1/4 cup heavy cream, 2 teaspoons vanilla and add powdered sugar slowly. I normally don't add the whole bag because to me it is too sweet putting the whole bag. I leave probably 1 cup (I am guessing out of it) 


I take enough out some for some borders and flowers because it is thicker. Then I will add maybe 1 tablespoon of light corn syrup since I took out a little for my borders and maybe just a little more cream just to make the rest to be able to cover the cake more easily. The smoother it is the easier it goes on the cake.


This is if I do a 2 layer  9 inch cake. If I do a bigger cake I normally will make one recipe and half the recipe. I always have some left over that I sometimes will make cupcakes or either I freeze it and take it out when I need it.

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kazita Posted 27 Nov 2012 , 1:56am
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A2 Cups high ratio shortening 2 teaspoons butter flavoring 4teaspoons vanilla extract 2Tablespoons meringue power 20 teaspoons heavy whipping cream. More if needed to thin 2 pounds powered sugar

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elisaber Posted 5 Dec 2012 , 8:49am
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Thanks for the recipes, guys. But I can't use shortening - the closest thing we've got to that in this country comes in solid blocks, waaaaay harder than butter, and no matter how long you leave it on the counter it never reaches the consistency of the American shortening (Crisco etc). I did try it a couple of times when I first started out, but it's impossible to get rid of the lumps - our "shortening" is only meant for melting. So everything I do has to be all butter. :-)

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AnnieCahill Posted 5 Dec 2012 , 2:05pm
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So just use all butter.  All butter tastes better anyway.  The type of fat you use doesn't matter, it's the ratio of fat to sugar that makes it crust. 

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cupadeecakes Posted 5 Dec 2012 , 4:53pm
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Word!  All-butter is the way to go! :-)

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