Vinyl Mats Vs. Silicone For Fondant???

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erilay Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 9:58pm
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I need to toss my old wilton mats that I keep buying. JUNK!!!
I have heard vinal is great but have had a hard time finding one. I found a desk protector that is 24 by38 inches. It is as big as I can find. If anyone knows where to get a good one or a larger one that would be such a help. I also saw the aztec silicone mat and I am at a loss as to which mat to get. The price is the same so I really just want the best item for rolling fondant and maybe cutting shapes without cutting the mat.

Sorry so long... any help would be awsome. Thanks so much in advance.

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ladij153 Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 10:00pm
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Hi erilay,

You can get the Vinyl at Walmart, Joann's, buy it by the yard and cut to want the medium weight......

I use my cutters on it....if you don't press the daylights out of it it won't cut it.

Good luck!!!

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chattycakes Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 10:09pm
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I cut my silicone mat all up I don't recommend it!

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Texas_Rose Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 10:17pm
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I buy the vinyl by the yard too. It's $2 or $3 a yard and one yard is a huge piece. You want to store it rolled up instead of folded, though, or it will get wrinkles that don't come out. You can use a pastry wheel, metal shape cutter or baker's blade on it without it cutting through, but not an xacto knife or a rotary cutter.

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cakewitch85 Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 10:24pm
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I got my at walmart. brought 2 yard. big mistake it was a lot. i use it this weekend. cut it to the side of my table. i like it. still have a lot left over. I just save it for later use.

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milkmaid42 Posted 11 Mar 2010 , 10:25pm
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I wish I had researched a little more before buying my big silicone mat. It does work well, but it is very heavy, particularly when trying to drape a large sheet of fondant over a cake. In view of this, I would think that the desk protector might be a little too stiff to do the job. Shortly after purchasing the silicone, I went to Walmart and got length of vinyl. The expensive silicone now sits rolled up in its box while the vinyl is my choice every time. I could have saved a lot of $$$.

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Loucinda Posted 12 Mar 2010 , 12:00am
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I vote for the vinyl mat too, I have several, some large, some small depending on what I am rolling out at the time. You cannot beat the price!

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mandymakescakes Posted 12 Mar 2010 , 12:41am
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I bought a couple of cuts of vinyl at varying lengths after reading a different post about it here a few months back... L.O.V.E IT!!! Not only can I use my cutters on it (gently of course), but it makes clean up a breeze!!!

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erilay Posted 12 Mar 2010 , 2:57am
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Thanks for everyones help. I am going with the vinyl. Now I just have to hopw Wallmart still carries it. I heard that they did not havve it anymore but I have not checked myself. I have looked everywhere from Home Depo, Lowes, Target, Hobby Lobby, AC Moore, to online, and nothing. If anyone knows another place as a back up that would be great. THanks again.

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linedancer Posted 12 Mar 2010 , 3:02am
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Hobby Lobby should have it in their fabric area, if not, any JoAnns or Hancocks carry it. HTH

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AKS Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 12:27am
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Silly question, but my vinyl has a plastic smell to it-how do you get rid of it? Also, how do you store yours?

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grams Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 12:47am
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I too would like to know how you store it. I tried to roll my but couldn't get it to roll smoothly so it now seems to be permanently wrinkled.

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milkmaid42 Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 1:24am
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My cake room is a converted bedroom and on the sliding closet door I have installed a series of clips. The "most underneath" ones hold various sizes of vinyl, while higher up, on top I clip several impression mats. It seems to work pretty well for me. As far as a plastic-y odor, I really haven't observed any problem there. As I mentioned earlier, my silicone sits all by its lonesome, rolled up in its box. Yea for vinyl!

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Loucinda Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 1:29am
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Put it in the back window of your car on a hot day or in a tub of really hot water, dry it, then roll it - it will roll fine after that.

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tarascupcakes Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 3:31am
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I am looking for a large board that won't slip and I can knead my gumpaste on, roll it out and cut on it without cutting the board up. What do you all use for gumpaste work? I do A LOT of exacto stuff! TIA!

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Jemoiselle Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 7:50am
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I have a solution to the wrinkling....blow dry it! Hehe. Works like a charm. The heat softens the lines and they fall right out. I put mine on the table, blow dryer on, with one hand smoothing and one hand aiming the heat.

Hope that helps someone!

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ceshell Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 8:18am
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Yeah, the problem with a silicone mat is, you forget that you are only supposed to be using it for rolling and cutter work (not xacto work) and you get on a roll with your work, getting in the zone, and the next thing you know you've sliced your mat to bits. Ask me how I know icon_redface.gif. I did it once with a cheap one and then yesterday I pulled a 100% boneheaded move and carved the letter C into my Silpat icon_eek.gif! Apparently the sound of the little fibers getting sliced one-by-one wasn't enough to clue me in icon_mad.gif.

I do have the vinyl mat and get good results with it. The plastic smell goes away after you own it for a while and let it air out. I too roll mine around my rolling pin to store, and then I run it under super hot water in the sink to flatten out any creases when I'm ready to use it. I found an inexpensive pint-sized self-healing mat which I now use for xacto work (well that was the plan anyway icon_rolleyes.gif), although a wood board (reserved for cake work) would work too I'd think.

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AKS Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 2:57pm
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Thanks for the feedback!

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sillywabbitz Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 3:13pm
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How do you keep your vinyl from slipping when your rolling stuff out. It drives me crazyicon_smile.gif

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newbaker55 Posted 13 Mar 2010 , 3:19pm
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I have a small placemat I use for little projects and this works for me...try lightly moistening the surface you work on with water, then lay the vinyl.

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Jemoiselle Posted 15 Mar 2010 , 5:52pm
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I roll mine out on vinyl, on top of a glass table. It sticks on it's own =)

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erilay Posted 16 Mar 2010 , 5:29am
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thanks for all your help. The Wallmart by me does not have a fabric section. I am taking a drive on Wednesday to pick it up in a store 45 minutes away. Thanks again... I can not wait to get it. I was also thinking of buying a cel pad... any advice hear? I currently use the one that came in the Wilton pack.


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dalis4joe Posted 16 Mar 2010 , 10:21am
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I bought the silicone mat and use it in my stainless steel table and it doesn't move... but I do need bigger sometimes and one day I decided to roll the fondant right on the stainless steel... (I rubed in with shortening.... barely... slightly... thin thin thin coat) worked like a charm.. no sticking... but I still want to get the vinyl pice....

Question, please...
Why does the thickness have to be medium? why not the heavy one?

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tarheelgirl Posted 16 Mar 2010 , 10:30am
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Silicone! I recently bought mine and LOVE it!! It will not move when rolling fondant.

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mandymakescakes Posted 17 Mar 2010 , 4:19pm
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I'm lucky to live in an apartment with a very large kitchen that has a very large granite-top center island... seriously, it's almost as big as as full-sized bed! Did I mention that I'm lucky? icon_biggrin.gif The vinyl doesn't move after I've let it sit unrolled for a few minutes. I kept the tissue-like paper it came rolled with and roll it back up using that or with regular plain tissue paper and that keeps it from sticking to itself so I can roll it up tight. I store it on end in an uncarpeted closet. I clean mine every time I unroll it with those Clorox kitchen wipes and then a food grade sanitizer spray... and then re-wipe it when putting it away. The plastic smell is all but gone now. I also switch the side I work on each time so that the rollup is always opposite from the one before, it keeps the curl to a minimum to begin with... but the hairdryer suggestion is a good one! I used to have to put my Wilton mats in the freezer (the hairdryer just made it curl more?!?), but then I'd only have about 5 min to get rolling before it would start to curl up again. I threw those suckers away the second I got home with my vinyl!

On the down side, I think there was a thread here about how vinyl leeches chemicals into food that comes into contact with it, but that is still up for debate. I keep the fondant to mat contact to a minimum at all times, once something is cut, on to wax paper it goes and my cakes are all on boards while I'm working... but know that I only do this for fun and I don't sell my cakes. If you're a licensed baker and/or business, I would suggest checking with your health department or whomever to confirm that you can use the vinyl in your establishment.

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kcassano Posted 28 Apr 2010 , 2:26am
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i was getting annoyed beyond belief with my mat moving around while rolling, so i tried scotch tape. not so good. pain to get off the table and just insnt strong enough. i had an extra roll of sports/medical tape left over from an..ahem...clutzy accident. i taped down the 4 corners of my mat w/it and it worked like a charm. it is tacky and strong enough to hold it in place while rolling, but because it is meant to come off wihtout ripping skin to shreds--it doesnt get gooey stuff stuck to the work surface. and if it does, it's minimal and comes off easily with soap and water.

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pastryqueen9 Posted 30 Apr 2010 , 8:26pm
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Wow...that's good info kcassano! I'm going to try that this weekend! Thanks thumbs_up.gif

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