Ok.....I've been researching the gift box cakes and am ready to give it a try but.....how are yall propping the tops up?? Someone said drive a dowel for it to rest on but then wouldn't the dowel possibly come through the box top or even make the top split in half from the pressure?
I was thinking to make my box top out of Krispies or candy melts using the pan shape of choice then wrap in fondant to correspond with the color of the rest of the cake. I see a few cakes actually have the top leaning on the side of the cake and I can't logically see how the box top (cake) wouldn't split, buckle, crack, etc. Am I right about the Krispies or candy melts to give me a harder even surface?
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First and third picture - simply make a wedge under the top tier. This could be cake - coming in the world of topsy turvy, or polystyrene. The decorations hide it.
The middle one is polystyrene (cake dummy), covered and decorated, I think. It isn't supported as such, only leaning on the two cake tiers.
I did one just recently
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I did the lid by gluing two cake boards together and then covering them in chocolate paste.
I stuck a dowel in the cake, near-ish to the front and left it sticking out about an inch or so so the lid would balance on it.
Didn't put the lid on yet. Placed the gumpaste 'tissue paper' in place and then I put the lid where I wanted it, using royal icing at the back and on the end of the dowel to secure it in place.
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Suzanne x
I have never attempted a cake box either but am making one for a baby shower this weekend.. I was going to make my box lid from gumpaste.. just molded onto the cake tin bottom... that way it is stiff and the dowels will not push through.. will thats my plan anyway..
Ok.....I've been researching the gift box cakes and am ready to give it a try but.....how are yall propping the tops up?? Someone said drive a dowel for it to rest on but then wouldn't the dowel possibly come through the box top or even make the top split in half from the pressure?
I was thinking to make my box top out of Krispies or candy melts using the pan shape of choice then wrap in fondant to correspond with the color of the rest of the cake. I see a few cakes actually have the top leaning on the side of the cake and I can't logically see how the box top (cake) wouldn't split, buckle, crack, etc. Am I right about the Krispies or candy melts to give me a harder even surface?
EXAMPLES:
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1271291&sub=1366501
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1422466
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1352728&sub=1352730
I made the lid of my cake by inverting a cake pan, dusting it with corn starch and covering it with gumpaste. Then I construct the bow on the lid. Let it dry. Then you can slip a cake board on the inside of it when it's all dry and you remove it from the cake pan. I then used 3 chopsticks to prop the lid up. A short one in the back. Then two of equal length in the front.
Here's one of my gift box cakes.
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That looks unreal cakeprincess! I'm trialling mine this week .. hope mine comes out half as good as yours!
I recommend Sugarshack's Boxes & Bows DVD. It is great. Shows step by step how to do different type boxes, bows and lids.
I haven't done a gift box, but did a toy box using some of her techniques. For the lid on the toy box, I used 1/2" foamcore, covered it in Fondant mixed with tylose. I held the lid open by supporting it with the toys inside and for extra strength and to hold the lid in place, I attached it to the back of the box with white chocolate tinted to the same color as my fondant.
Good luck, have fun and be sure to post a picture of your finished cake!
Ok.....I've been researching the gift box cakes and am ready to give it a try but.....how are yall propping the tops up?? Someone said drive a dowel for it to rest on but then wouldn't the dowel possibly come through the box top or even make the top split in half from the pressure?
I was thinking to make my box top out of Krispies or candy melts using the pan shape of choice then wrap in fondant to correspond with the color of the rest of the cake. I see a few cakes actually have the top leaning on the side of the cake and I can't logically see how the box top (cake) wouldn't split, buckle, crack, etc. Am I right about the Krispies or candy melts to give me a harder even surface?
EXAMPLES:
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1271291&sub=1366501
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1422466
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=1352728&sub=1352730
Try making the lid from white styrofoam and cover it in fondant or gum paste.
I have done a topic search with no luck & I hope you don't mind me asking here instead of starting a new topic. I am wondering if I can cover the "box" part of the cake with fondant panels instead of 1 big piece of fondant? I'm not fondant savy yet & squares/rectangles have given me issues in the past. I thought it might be easier to cut fondant panels to size & attach them to the sides of the cake. Would this work or should I try to cover the entire cake w/ 1 piece of fondant?
I have done a topic search with no luck & I hope you don't mind me asking here instead of starting a new topic. I am wondering if I can cover the "box" part of the cake with fondant panels instead of 1 big piece of fondant? I'm not fondant savy yet & squares/rectangles have given me issues in the past. I thought it might be easier to cut fondant panels to size & attach them to the sides of the cake. Would this work or should I try to cover the entire cake w/ 1 piece of fondant?
It can be done, but is not really easier - you need to "glue" the seams well together and try to make it unnoticeable.
What I would do - find a design where I could cover it whole and hide all the imperfections - stripped box would be ideal here - simply put stripes of fondant - it can be even the same color or perhaps slightly darker - on top of it.
Another way, instead of panels - cover the top with one square piece, cover the sides with one long wide strip. It is the same you want to do, but less seams and easier to hide.
Or another idea is to make a chocolate wrap around your box. This works usually well enough. There is tutorial here for chocolate wrap.
Good luck to you!
Thanks majka_ze, I have another week before the cake, so I may practice covering a dummy fully & w/ a top panels & wrap the rest to see which is easier for me. I just need to practice, but am terrified.
You can definitely use panels, but it will be more time consuming than just covering your cake with fondant. To use panels, you would need to roll out the fondant and let it dry for about a day before cutting them. You would have to cut your first panel, put it on the cake and measure for the next piece and so on until you have measured, cut and applied all 4 panels.
Thanks majka_ze, I have another week before the cake, so I may practice covering a dummy fully & w/ a top panels & wrap the rest to see which is easier for me. I just need to practice, but am terrified.
How about measuring the height of the cake, then the distance around and cutting a strip of fondant to wrap around the cake, then just add your lid....saves a lot of work doing all those seams.
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