Another Pet Peeve

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miss_sweetstory Posted 26 Jun 2009 , 8:29am
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Prepare for spelling skills to deteriorate even further! This past fall we received a letter from school that spelling lists would no longer be given, and spelling as a subject would no longer be tested. The children would learn to spell, "by using the words and learning general word structure." The thought behind this is that spelling tests add too much stress to the educational process.

It is months later and I am still upset. I know children are sponges, but "absorbing" spelling is expecting a bit much, isn't it?

One of the most famous TV tag lines is my grammar pet peeve. "To boldly go where no man has gone before." Split infinitive alert! tapedshut.gif

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mcaulir Posted 26 Jun 2009 , 12:49pm
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Hooray! Split infinitives! Can we talk about ending sentences with prepositions as well?

My grandfather was an English teacher, and liked the example: Why did you bring me this book to read out of for?

He also used to, in his later years, listen to the TV or radio news and mumble, "Off with his head" when he heard poor grammar. He was my hero!

As a teacher, I can't begin to describe how many educational theories are complete rubbish. I've decided that relying on the education system here in Australia to educate your children would be a big mistake.

now...im going to quickly get.....of the computer.....before i say anything else

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Mensch Posted 26 Jun 2009 , 6:20pm
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Gah... gee whiz I want to scream! Just read a thread and wanted to be totally sarcastic with my answer, but decided to do it here, instead, where people really do care!.

you're, not u're
which one, not which 1
would, not wud
you, not u
should, not shud
your, not ur
see, not c
could, not cud
please, not plez

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Sugarflowers Posted 26 Jun 2009 , 8:09pm
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Prepare for spelling skills to deteriorate even further! This past fall we received a letter from school that spelling lists would no longer be given, and spelling as a subject would no longer be tested. The children would learn to spell, "by using the words and learning general word structure." The thought behind this is that spelling tests add too much stress to the educational process.

It is months later and I am still upset. I know children are sponges, but "absorbing" spelling is expecting a bit much, isn't it?

One of the most famous TV tag lines is my grammar pet peeve. "To boldly go where no man has gone before." Split infinitive alert! tapedshut.gif




This sounds like the people who came up with this new plan hate spelling or can't spell, so they wanted to give the kids a "break" from all that hard work. icon_confused.gif

I hate to see business signs with misspelled words. It's no wonder that people can't spell. However, I do love the signs held by cows for a fast food chain with with all the misspellings.

It's good to know that there are still those who prefer languages to be used properly.

Michele

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mcaulir Posted 26 Jun 2009 , 10:02pm
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I hate to see business signs with misspelled words. It's no wonder that people can't spell. However, I do love the signs held by cows for a fast food chain with with all the misspellings.




You would think that the companies that spend many, many dollars on these signs would have someone in the office who could cast an eye over the wording before it goes to the sign-making place?

I remember a poster in a sportswear shop here years ago that advertised "girls' and boy's shoes".

That boy had better get there fast to get his shoes.

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-Tubbs Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 4:54am
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"Huge furniture sale!!!" always gets me. A sale of giant-sized furniture, or just a really large quantity of regular furniture..?!

In the same vein, don't you enjoy seeing a properly done sign? I saw a handwritten cardboard sign tacked to a tree a couple of weeks ago, saying "Ladies' Retreat". I thought of all the other possibilities "Lady's/ladys/ladie's retreet", and just enjoyed!

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__Jamie__ Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 5:20am
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Oh....another one that drives me crazy....is when people don't use normal punctuation......they just resort to using the dotdotdot.....why is it...do you think.... so hard to use commas....periods and....not to mention...capitalizing the first letter of every sentence...?





It is what it is. I tend to turn off the perfect grammar and punctuation mode when I'm in here. Usually, when explaining something, it's quicker to just type away. I'll be damned if I'm gonna spell check and make sure everything is perfect in a cake forum amongst true mispellers (that may be misspelled, but IDK) and grammar slayers. Contracts, professional e-mails, and all other manners of correspondence with clients and other professionals? You bet I make sure it's perfect. In here? I could give two hoots, time to let the hair down.....oops! icon_twisted.gif [/b]

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mcaulir Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 8:03am
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"Huge furniture sale!!!" always gets me. A sale of giant-sized furniture, or just a really large quantity of regular furniture..?!




My favourite is from a book, not real life: "Giant kids' playground". Regular-sized kids beware!

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I'll be damned if I'm gonna spell check and make sure everything is perfect in a cake forum amongst true mispellers (that may be misspelled, but IDK) and grammar slayers. Contracts, professional e-mails, and all other manners of correspondence with clients and other professionals? You bet I make sure it's perfect. In here? I could give two hoots, time to let the hair down.....oops!




I think everyone has their little ideosyncrasies. Everyone's a bit nutty about making sure that something is exactly right all the time; levelling cakes, colour co-ordinating their outfit, keeping their car polished.

I view care in the use of the English language as a courtesy from the writer to the reader. If others are taking the time to read something I have written, I should take the time to write in such a way that my reader finds it easy to work out what I'm trying to say.

That being said, I doubt that anyone here would quibble over small errors on a cake forum. It's just that we punctuation and grammar nazis usually feel alone in a hostile world of misplaced apostrophes and split infinitives.

I do try not to let my weird grammar obsession out too often: it's just nice to know there are others out there! icon_biggrin.gif [/quote]

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costumeczar Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 3:02pm
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My son's favorite store name is the "Unfinished Furniture Mart." He theorizes that they sell chairs with only three legs, tables with no tops, etc.

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indydebi Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 3:14pm
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icon_redface.gif (Raising her hand slowly from the back of the room). I'm guilty of the dot-dot-dot writing. But I actually TALK that way .... pausing for emphasis .... waiting to make a point .... speaking in sentence fragments. (It's part of my never-ending charm! icon_rolleyes.gif )

If there was a way to add an southern accent so you could actually HEAR me say "y'all", I'd do it! icon_biggrin.gif And Lenette tells me, when we met for lunch, that hearing me refer to someone as a "dumbass" in person is way more fun that watching me write it on a forum! icon_lol.gif

However, even tho' I confess my sins, I just detest the intentional use of misspellings which promotes the illiteracy rate in this country! Pictures on a cash register does NOT enable the illiterate to get a job .... it tells them it's ok NOT to learn how to read!

(oops! There go those dots again!) icon_rolleyes.gif

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__Jamie__ Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 3:35pm
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-Tubbs Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 4:19pm
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I agree - I try not to be too obsessive about it, I like to know I can do it properly when I need to. Actually, I find I arrange my thoughts better when I write in proper sentences, rather than the stream-of-conciousness way. Maybe it was the way we were taught 30 years ago... (which, by the way, are perfectly acceptable grammar:

Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from the Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis, "omission") is a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word or a phrase from the original text. An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence.

The most common form of an ellipsis is a row of three periods or full stops (...). Forms encountered less often are: three asterisks (***), one em dash (), multiple en dashes (), and the Unicode Ellipsis symbol ().
(Source: Wikipedia)

Jamie, the second part of your signature line made me laugh a lot!

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mommapaul3 Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 6:01pm
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I completely agree with all of the above comments and have to add a related pet peeve of mine. Proofreading! DH teaches a class at the local university and requires a book report and class evaluation at the end of the semester. I can't believe how many students don't even bother to read over what they've written in order to fix stupid mistakes.

Usually it's omitting a word or phrase, but most of the problems mentioned above are also there. This is a selective university too where kids with a 4.0 can't always get in, so you would think they would be able to write a coherent sentence.

One day I had to take some supplies DH had forgotten out to his class. While I was there, I started chatting with a few students as they were working on a project and the subject of their papers came up. I mentioned to them that they should make sure to proofread their papers before they handed them in - just trying to be helpful. Two or three of them just shrugged their shoulders and said, "Oh, I never proofread anything!" icon_eek.gif

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indydebi Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 6:21pm
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Two or three of them just shrugged their shoulders and said, "Oh, I never proofread anything!" icon_eek.gif


Gosh, don't you wish we were all so perfect that we didnt' have to look anything over and we were guaranteed to have it PERFECTLY PERFECT the first time thru?

This, too, they shall outgrow! icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyone remember the Mary Tyler Moore episode where she tells Lou Grant, "That's the FIRST memo I didnt' proofread for her!"

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saffronica Posted 27 Jun 2009 , 10:23pm
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mommapaul3: Where does your husband teach?

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mommapaul3 Posted 29 Jun 2009 , 12:29am
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mommapaul3: Where does your husband teach?




He teaches wilderness survival at BYU.

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saffronica Posted 29 Jun 2009 , 2:01am
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Hey, I went there! But I studied art, not wilderness survival. Maybe his students think that they don't need to proofread to survive in the wilderness, but still...they should have learned that in high school!

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gottabakenow Posted 29 Jun 2009 , 10:41pm
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There's a tailor's shop here and they have a sign in front of the building. Apparently they "alter pant's".
It's a dark sign with white letters and they colored in the apostrophe with pencil in the hopes that it would be less noticeable. I laugh every time I walk past there.

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mcaulir Posted 29 Jun 2009 , 11:11pm
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At least the made an effort! I've been known to discretely rub apostrophes off menu blackboards in restaurants advertising nacho's and taco's.

I went to dinner one night and there were two specials boards, one advertising 'sheppard's pie' and one 'shephard's pie'. I wondered how many goes they'd have to have before getting it right.

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__Jamie__ Posted 29 Jun 2009 , 11:19pm
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Oh yeah, apostrophes where they don't belong bugs the heck outta me too! What exactly belongs to those taco's and nacho's anyways??!?!

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Gingoodies Posted 28 Jul 2009 , 5:45pm
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Jumping in the pool. It is anyway. No "s".

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indydebi Posted 28 Jul 2009 , 6:02pm
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Jumping in the pool. It is anyway. No "s".



when someone says "anyways" to hubby, he responds with "How many ways?"

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__Jamie__ Posted 28 Jul 2009 , 6:11pm
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Oops, I probably do the anyways myself. NOT anymore! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

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Gingoodies Posted 28 Jul 2009 , 6:27pm
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"Anyways" and using the word "of" when it should be "have" are two of my biggest grammar peeves. I try to be very conscious of these. LOL

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Jen80 Posted 28 Jul 2009 , 11:39pm
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Now...................guy's stopp bing soo...................piky!!
if thees peeple coold of lernt how to speel n doe grandma propper im shaw thay, wood of.



Sorry. I couldn't help it. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

I really don't know as much about literacy as you guys do, but if I pick up on something that I do know, it annoys me too. Although, I am also quilty of the...........................

man................i hOPe i spelld evrthing rite In that lasd sentinc icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


icon_lol.gif Edited to say: That's what I get for trying to be a Smarta$$. Please read quilty as guilty.

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artscallion Posted 29 Jul 2009 , 2:21am
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My biggest pet peeve is when people say, "I could care less" when what they really mean is, "I couldn't care less." If they'd just stop and think about what they're saying, they'd see the sense in it. (I also hate when people use sence instead of sense.)

My favorite T-shirt saying:
"there, their, they're...it's not that difficult!"

And if a CC poster tells you they're making you a "homade" cake, don't send your DH to pick it up.



Some of the posts on this board, particularly those asking for help, are so grammatically and contextually lazy that I wonder what kind of help the poster expects. I can't count the number of times I've seen a thread like the following:

HEEEELLLLPP!!!! (mandatory vague thread title that you have to waste time clicking on to find out that you don't have any interest in the topic.) followed by:

"I just started caking 2 weaks ago and am making DSs wedding cake due this satruday for 300 people plus lemon chocolate with fresh berries and cream...yummers!.... I have to work Friday at work so cant start til night before. How do I do the smbc if its too not the way a recipe says when I add the other stuff.???? HELLLPP MEEE!!!please!!!"

All that ever comes from these pleas are pages and pages that often read like this:

Helpful Harriet: (pulls tooth #1) what exactly are you having trouble with?
Vague Vivian: (keeping teeth clenched) lIt's not working when I mix it.
Helpful Harriet: (Places foot on Harriet's knee and gets a better grip on tooth) What's not working when you mix what?
Vague Vivian: The BC. What am I doing wrong? (I particularly love when folks ask us what they're doing wrong, when they haven't told us what it is they're doing, like we can read their mind and know what recipe they're using and how they used it.)
Concerned Connie: (steps in with bigger pliers) What's happening when you mix the BC?
Vague Vivian: (completely disregarding the question) Am I using too much butter?I
Miffed Mildred: (steps in with the nitrous at the ready)Well which recipe are you using and what do you mean by "not the right texture"?
Vague Vivian: the one from CC.

...and on and on until 14 pages later we discover that she substituted canola oil for the Crisco and we all feel like we've been through a root canal!

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indydebi Posted 29 Jul 2009 , 2:31am
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omg, arts, that was so funny! And so true!!!! icon_lol.gif If you and Doug ever put your writing skills together, my stomach will hurt for 3 days from the laughter!

And gingoodies, I'm am SO with you on the "of" instead of "have" (i.e. "She should of called first!"). aaauuuggghhhhH!!!!

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__Jamie__ Posted 29 Jul 2009 , 2:32am
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"I just started caking 2 weaks ago and am making DSs wedding cake due this satruday for 300 people plus lemon chocolate with fresh berries and cream...yummers!.... I have to work Friday at work so cant start til night before. How do I do the smbc if its too not the way a recipe says when I add the other stuff.???? HELLLPP MEEE!!!please!!!"





OMG. icon_lol.gif LOL at your whole post really though. I know we all start somewhere, Lord knoooooows this is true. But I see so many posters in here that obviously are biting off way more than they can chew. And some bride somewhere is paying the price. tapedshut.gif

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mcaulir Posted 29 Jul 2009 , 4:09am
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My favorite T-shirt saying:
"there, their, they're...it's not that difficult!"




I would buy that shirt. My family, however, wouldn't be seen with me while I wore it.

My current biggest peeve is people correcting me when I use "and me" correctly, as in: "She came to the shops with my daughter and me".

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Sox-n-Pats Posted 29 Jul 2009 , 5:55am
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OMG! I love you people!!

I agree 100% with all of the above. I get bashed by my husband for my nit-pickiness. I even nitpick the news!

Here are my pet peeves...

-ly come on now people, adverbs need these two little letters, how do we drive? carefulLY- so it's "drive carefully", not "drive carefu"l It's "drive safeLY" not "drive safe". My friends will hear me yell LEEEE (ly sound) from another room when they leave it off.

next- double subjects. I had to stop watching the news because the nighttime anchorman uses them with just about every sentence.... President Obama, he.... Michael Jackson, he..... Miss America she... the dog it...OMG

and- the incorrect use of words. I go nuts.

Remember when Jesse Jackson helped with freeing those hostages a few years back and he made that grandstanding speech on the tarmack???? He said it was" time for the speeches to end so the men could begin RECONCILING with their families" . Really? The hostages and their families were fighting while they were being held hostage????

Another local news lady once said that a tourist had "drowned in Lake Mead and when she was pulled into the boat, she was dead" NO WAY!! she drowned and she ended up dead? That's bloody amazing.

Michael Jordan made a speech once about being able to shoot with both hands so he was AMPHIBIOUS (instead of ambidexterous)

and one more- this one drives my students absolutely nuts. The use of CAN instead of MAY.

Student: "Can I use the restroom?"
Me: "That's really between you and your doctor don't you think?"

Student: "Can I sharpen my pencil?"
Me: "I'm not sure, does it require skills beyond your ability?"

Student: "Can I go to the bathroom?"
Me: "I hope so, I don't have the authority to call 911 from the classroom."

It takes them a while, but they get it. Then it's proper English in my class (until a new student arrives and then the fun starts again)

I also look at my students and say "Excuse me?" whenever they phrase a question wrong or end with a preposition, or say "Ya know..."

OH another pet peeve... using LIKE. Ugh! My students will begin explaining definition with "it's like a house..." I interupt them and ask "is it a house, or is it only like a house as in a tent?" It takes longer to rid that habit, but it is sooo worth it.

(yes, my classroom is a trip!)

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