How Does Mike Get His Modeling Chocolate So Perfect?

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mamacc Posted 12 Jun 2007 , 1:21pm
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I am just in awe of how perfect Mike McCarey gets his modeling chocolate!! Does anyone have any tips on how? I have a hard time getting it really smooth and it also gets a little melty/sticky b/c of my warm hands.

Courtney

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ozcake Posted 13 Jun 2007 , 11:55pm
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I'm not sure what Mike's work looks like and I am no expert but when I tried playing with Chocolate Plastique which I believe is the same thing as chocolate clay, when I first made it - it looked awful (like a dried up cow pattie) if you knead it a bit at a time (and then add the kneaded bits together) it becomes a lot smoother.

If you are trying to cover a cake with it once it is on the cake smooth it over with your hands it gives it a smoother and shinier finish. I did have a little trouble with my decorations in that they were fine until I tried to pick them up and handle them as they easily smooshed, I found I had to be really careful and limit the amount I handled them as much as possible (please note I did this in the middle of summer here where it is super humid). You can see the mini chocolate cakes in my pics to see how they came out - far from perfect but not too bad for my first go.

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2508s42 Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 4:16am
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mamacc, are you taliking about Mike that did the Captian Hook cake on food network challenge?? If that is the case...I KNOW!~!!! He is amazing! I don't know how he does it either, but I have my first batch ever drying in the kitchen. I plan to make building panels out of it. Hopefully it wasnt the magic of tv that made it look so easy! BTW, mine also looks like a pile of white cow poop.

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ShirleyW Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 4:48am
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My guess is years of practice and cool hands.

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Wendoger Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 4:59am
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I've had troubles with it too....I would LOVE to take a class by a professional and learn the tricks to it!!!! thumbs_up.gif

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adven68 Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 12:35pm
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He is the God of Cake.

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mamacc Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 11:03pm
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He is the God of Cake.




That is so true! icon_biggrin.gif I would LOVE to take a class with him! Or just watch him work on a cake without all the TV editing, you know? I get so frustrated when I'm trying to model things and it's either too soft or too sticky or too dry!! One thing that helped me a little bit when I was trying to make a roller skater figure a couple days ago was to put the pieces I was working on in the freezer for a couple minutes to firm them up, and then I could keep working on them.

Ozcake, your mini cakes are cute! I haven't tried covering a cake with modeling chocolate yet, but maybe I will soon. I like the fact that you can smooth out the seams

Courtney

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2508s42 Posted 14 Jun 2007 , 11:59pm
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When you cover the cakes with modeling chocolate, does it get hard? When you cut it or bite into it, does it crack, like magic shell? That is my only fear about puuting it on a cake.

I made modeling chocolate, and rolled it into rectangles for building fronts... Will they ever dry? Will they continue to be soft and sag? I want them to stand tall and firm. Will this work or should I make GP buildings?

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etigg82 Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 12:05am
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if you knead it a bit at a time (and then add the kneaded bits together) it becomes a lot smoother.




Sounds about right! That's my trick to getting beautifuly smooth MMF thumbs_up.gif

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weirkd Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 12:14am
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If you watched him, he was taking walks with parts of the cake. He would refrigerate it after it was shaped and it does get hard after you do this. Not like magic shell hard, but like fondant does when it dries but without the cracking. I also find its easier to mold then fondant because it doesnt crack. I made my Boots the monkey cake mostly out of modeling chocolate. I use a premade version called Chocopan. But it does not like humidity. So in the summer you will have problems with it. I believe Norm...in Va, another FN challenger, had a problem using it on one of his cakes. Also, the challenge where Collette was teamed with a woman and couldnt move her cake. Had problems with the fondant, that was Chocopan. It tastes great but has its disadvantages also.

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2508s42 Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 12:22am
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I love your Duff figure, weirkd. Even before I read the description I thought, hey there's Duff!

Maybe you can get on his show with it. icon_smile.gif Let us know what Mary Alice says!

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mamacc Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 12:22am
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When you cover the cakes with modeling chocolate, does it get hard? When you cut it or bite into it, does it crack, like magic shell? That is my only fear about puuting it on a cake.

I made modeling chocolate, and rolled it into rectangles for building fronts... Will they ever dry? Will they continue to be soft and sag? I want them to stand tall and firm. Will this work or should I make GP buildings?




You can also mix in a little bit of gumpaste. I did that on a skeleton I made for halloween and it worked pretty well.

The darn humidity is such a PITA!!

Courtney

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surfergina Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 1:52am
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Is there a recipe to make modeling chocolate or do I must order it premade?

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sparkie248 Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 3:49am
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When adding gumpaste to modeling chocolate, do you use the same 50/50 ratio like you do with fondant?
Thanks!
-erin

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weirkd Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 1:32pm
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I do not add gumpaste to my modeling chocolate. You can use it as separate accents but I dont think you can mix the two like you would fondant.
The basic recipe is in the recipe section under fondant/gumpaste recipes on here. Its just chocolate and corn syrup. I buy my chocopan at Sugarcraft. I dont usually have time to mess with making it myself.

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2508s42 Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 2:37pm
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It was really easy to make. I used almond bark and corn syrup. It took under 5 minutes with a long sit time.

The freezer thing worked. I am excited to finish the cake. I will post it tonight.

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weirkd Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 4:59pm
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Great! Cant wait to see it!

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srski Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 8:25pm
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Here's a link to Mike's Cakes. He's out of Washington State. I haven't been up to see his shop or anything, but would love to. If you'll notice, he mentions on his website he's working on DVDs and possibly workshops to show "how to". Way cool! icon_lol.gif

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mamacc Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 8:29pm
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When adding gumpaste to modeling chocolate, do you use the same 50/50 ratio like you do with fondant?
Thanks!
-erin




I just tried this recently and it worked fine...pretty much the same thing as adding fondant to modeling chocolate. I didn't really measure, but I think I added a little less than 50/50. It didn't seem to help it harden very quickly, but maybe it was just the gumpaste I was using. I'll probably try this again soon with a better gumpaste recipe.

Courtney

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doescakestoo Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 8:47pm
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I was lucky when I lived in Washington state that I got to meet him at a cake show there. He was cool to talk to. He had done a three D tiger cake. It was awsome to see. I am a fan of his.

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weirkd Posted 15 Jun 2007 , 11:02pm
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Yah, I talked to Laura at his shop last week and she mentioned it to me. A fellow CCer was wondering how he made the Frito Lay bag have the shine and I was talking to them about the spray edible laquer. It turned out that he used a piece of acitate over the modeling chocolate. He hasnt updated his site though. I wish he would add some of the pieces he does for the Challenges. Especially the Scooby-doo. That one was awesome. But I guess when your that good, you dont need to!

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2508s42 Posted 16 Jun 2007 , 1:45am
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I just went to his website, and I left feeling inadequate. I am glad that he is in another state!!

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smolie6 Posted 16 Jun 2007 , 3:34am
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I just posted this comment on another subject but Mikes amazing cakes just came out with a whole new web site and they have a section on whats new.On it they posted some great pictures of their captain hook entry. It also says they are working on some kind of dvd on modeling chocolate.I can't wait! The comment about the Frito bag makes sense.Now that I look at it , you can see they created a kind of low spoy where they put the frito chips and then used the clear plastic just over that to replicate the celephane window.

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weirkd Posted 16 Jun 2007 , 3:37pm
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I know what your saying. I look at his website, Browens, and Colettes and I feel like Im wasting my time.
Do you know what the new address is?
Laura said that the dvd's were coming out soon when I talked to them. I cant wait! He's another one I wouldnt mind working for because their so talented. Unfortunatly they are across the country! I have more chance working with Duff who is only 2 hrs away!...yah, fat chance there too!

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smolie6 Posted 16 Jun 2007 , 5:00pm
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The address is www.mikesamazingcakes.com

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Schmoop Posted 17 Jun 2007 , 5:18am
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I remember seeing cakes Mike made for parties about 10 - 12 years ago. I was manging a restaurant DT Seattle at the time and I think seeing his cakes is what intrigued me, I was obsessed with COOL cakes after that. Didn't start decorating cakes until I was married and had kids though...just like alot of people, that's what got me started.

I remember another company in Seattle 'Great Cakes' also that did awesome work as well.

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