Help...my Icing Fell Off The Cake!!

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mxpark Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 5:37am
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i made a cake for a family friend's housewarming and when she went to cut the cake to serve it the icing fell off! any ideas or suggestions on why it happened and what to do to prevent this from happening again?

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JoanneK Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 5:40am
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I've seen this happen when you do basketweave on the sides but have not seen it happen otherwise. Was it to hot so it melted?

Joanne

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soygurl Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 5:52am
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What type of icing did you use? What type of cake? Did you do a crumb coat? did you freeze the cake at all after icing (like between a crumb coat and final coat)? What was the temp like?
There are tons of things that could cause the icing to fall off, but they are usually easy to fix.

~Kelsie

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cupcakequeen Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 6:02am
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This topic makes me curious...

waterfallsoygurl, so how would you fix those problems that you mentioned?

I notice that if icing is too stiff it doesn't stick to the cake and it just falls off while icing, so I thin it down and that always fixes it.
Also, if it is too hot out, the icing just slides right off (I usually do cupcakes).

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cupcakequeen Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 6:03am
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This topic makes me curious...

waterfallsoygurl, so how would you fix those problems that you mentioned?

I notice that if icing is too stiff it doesn't stick to the cake and it just falls off while icing, so I thin it down and that always fixes it.
Also, if it is too hot out, the icing just slides right off (I usually do cupcakes).

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Samsgranny Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 3:38pm
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Yes, I've had this problem when my icing has been too stiff. Just add a little more liquid next time. Best of luck!

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soygurl Posted 16 Jul 2006 , 4:56pm
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Well, with some icings, you need a light crumb coat to get the icing adheared to the cake, but freezing the crumb coat before adding the final coat can make the final coat fall off. Also, if the crumb coat is a different type of icing (or even a very different consistancy) the final coat can fall off. In these cases I would not freeze the crum coat, and use the same type of icing for both coats. Also, and moisture between the crum and final coats can cause sliding. These things only happen with some icings, which is why I asked (IMBC, cream cheese, etc.).
Also, when it comes to the cake, any cake that is too flimsy and delicate can breake off if the icing is too heavy (so use a lighter frosting and/or stronger cake) or thick. Also a crumb coat can help this sometimes.
Any drastic temperature changes can cause icing to fall off when the cake inside contracts and expands, so try to keep the cake at similar temps (or let it adjust temp gradualy).
All of these things don't cause problems most of the time, but they have the potential to, so I don't always follow this advice, but if I notice a problem I usually know what caused it.

~Kelsie

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mxpark Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 12:12am
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the cake did have basketweave on the side but the cake itself was pretty dense. and in fact i thought my icing was too thin. but there was no crumb coat and i chilled the cake after i made it so i think it may have been the change in temperature since my husband and i agreed that the woman's house was a bit warm.

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jmt1714 Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 12:13am
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Putting a crumb coat on would help the basketweave adhere

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mxpark Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 12:15am
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so after putting on a crumbcoat (before basketweave) would i freeze it or immediatly put on the basketweave?

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loves2bake Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 12:51am
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Basket weave is one of my favorite designs so I use it regularly with no trouble (knock on wood...) I always frost the cake first to give the basket weave something to stick to. I have never frozen the cake between applications, so I can't help you there, but I can tell you that you can frost one day and apply weave the next with good results.
HTH

PS: Hot weather DOES make the icing melt right off the cake icon_mad.gif (experience talking here..lol) especially if your bc is more butter than crisco.

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mxpark Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 1:56am
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well my icing didn't melt off the cake. it was more like it didn't stick so the cake went one way while the icing (all still in tact) went the other. but i did ice the cake itself first and then i applied the basketweave so i'm not sure what happened. icon_sad.gif

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loves2bake Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 3:47am
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Maybe it's as simple as making sure the beginning of each line "sticks" to the cake? Good luck!

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Dale Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 3:53am
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Also happens when the cake is a little under done and the cake is sticky. Frosting wont adhere well and will fall off, especially when it's cutting time.

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mxpark Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 5:08am
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yeah the actual cake was kind of sticky. i don't know about under done. i made sure the vertical lines stuck to the cake but not the horizontal ones. maybe i'll make another trial cake and try making sure that all of the lines stick. thank you to all of you who have offered suggestions!!

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Dale Posted 17 Jul 2006 , 1:24pm
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Sticky cake usually comes from the oven temperature being too cool - use an oven thermometer and preheat the oven until the correct temp. Most home ovens are off a bit (mine is!) so a good oven thermometer is a must.

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