Viva How To... Yes, This Means You Too!

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cakesbykitty Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 5:42am
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ok... i don't mean to beat this topic to death... but.... i have seen (and posted) a trillion messages on viva smoothing methods for crusting buttercream frosting. However, what isn't clear to me is how you all do it! i thought it was put the viva towel on a crusted butter cream cake and gently rub with fingers, then i saw someone uses a spackle knife, now a fondant press thingy... and someone said they move it around? certainly you mean you lift and move it to another spot? i would love it if someone would type out the complete way to do the viva smoothing method and if you all would add your personal experiences and any tips you have... (I actually just read on another thread one person mentioned copy paper is better than viva?! icon_surprised.gif ) so, for me, and all the newbies, and people frustrated with bumpy, dimpled and non-smooth cakes... will you start typing people?! Thanks in advance from one lumpy, dimply cake maker (the cakes, not me ... well ok, me too icon_biggrin.gif )

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rezzygirl Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 5:59am
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well..I think everyone probably will have a different way that they do it. I allow my buttercream to crust over, then I place the viva on the top of my cake and smooth with my hand. I do have the fondant press thingy which is called a fondant smoother or fondant tool. I use both the smoother and my hands, depends on my mood! I rub and press and look until it's as smooth as I want it to be. I start on the top of the cake and work my way down to the sides and around. It usually takes quite a bit of rubbing and pressing for me to get it very smooth.

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mhill91801 Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:04am
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I let my buttercream crust a little, maybe 5 minutes or so...I have also done it almost instantly after icing, with no problems, but I would suggest waiting a bit so the towel doesn't stick. I lay the towel on my cake, and use my hand to rub the towel, pushing very slightly if there is an air bubble or somthing. You can feel the pressure on the icing underneath, and you don't want it to be hard so it pushes the icing around. When I'm done with that spot, I pick up the towel, and move it to the next area. Repeating the same process until my cake is smooth. Also works great for sides and corners. Good luck, it really is probably the best trick I have learned.

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reenie Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:05am
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I do the same thing. Just use my fingers... and yes you do lift the towel and start on a new section or the cake. I actually feel that my hands are the best tools I have when it comes to cake decorating.

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Mac Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:06am
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I start with the fondant smoother and do the sides first. I finish up using my hand and fingers because I can feel the frosting better. Definitely have to use a crusting frosting. I probably over-do the smoothing but I love it when everybody is discussing whether it's fondant or buttercream. To see their faces when I tell them it's BC--priceless!!! LOL!!!

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cakesbykitty Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:07am
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when i use the viva i notice (even though it is "the only non patterned paper towel) it leaves a ripply pattern?????

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Jorre Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:43am
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Use the other side of the paper towel. Viva towels have somewhat of a pattern on one side and are pefectly smooth on the other.

Or at least the ones I bought are like that!

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cakesbykitty Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 6:51am
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i'll be darned.. i just went to the kitchen to look at my viva and there is a right and wrong side! huh!

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missyek Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 10:08am
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I'm the opposite of mac--I start with smoothing with my hands and fingers first. I smooth out all the rough icing areas that I was too lazy to smooth with the spatula before letting it crust. I will use the heat from my hands to manipulate the icing to really make it smooth and get out any creases or major rough spots. Then I will take my fondant smoothers (I use 2) and iron out the cake to smooth out all the finger indents I left! icon_lol.gif The whole time the viva is between either my hands or the fondant smoothers and I am constantly lifting it and moving it to another spot on the cake.

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springlakecake Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 11:53am
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You know I was at the store last night picking up some viva and last time I just bought the plain white kind without a pattern. Yesterday I notice one with a design on it (not a raised pattern) anyway it was even smoother!

Anyhow I use the fondant smoother and "iron" the cake with it. When i used my fingers it tended to be a little "bumpy" I am still working on getting the icing smooth. I think it is the hardest part of decorating!!

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SCPATTICAKESCREACTIONS Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 12:11pm
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I also use plain printer paper too....it work great!! My loving family always uses my viva and I can't seem to find it when I need it!! Good luck...the smoothing is always the hardest part!!!

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Loucinda Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 1:46pm
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I use my fingers only - you can actually "feel" the areas that need to be smoothed. I let my icing crust just a few minutes (maybe 3 to 5?) I also keep a couple of the Viva's near by - sometimes if you are using a color icing, some color will rub off onto the paper towel, so I use a clean on to keep from transferring the color. It works perfectly for me - and there are a lot of people who think my cakes are fondant too, they are so smooth!!

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Mac Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 2:11pm
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I also use Viva and my fingers for "sculpting" BC icing. You can see it on the "Pink" doll cake and I am working on another Barbie cake that I will post later.

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CakesBySandy Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 2:23pm
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After about 5 minutes of refridgeration I start the smoothing process. I do use my hands and fingers on top of the Viva to smooth; however, my hands are very,very warm. Because of this, I will use a big serving spoon and rub the curved backside of that on top of the Viva to smooth it.

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beachcakes Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 3:21pm
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Would someone mind posting a BC recipe that crusts well? The one I"ve used for years will crust, but it takes about 20 - 30 min. I hate waiting!! TIA!

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Jorre Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 3:43pm
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I use a small angled spatula to smooth it out with the Viva and my hands as well. I tried the fondant smoother and it wasn't working well, I think I was afraid to use enough pressure.

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MJsmom Posted 30 Jun 2006 , 3:54pm
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beachcakes, there's a recipe on here for a crusting BC, and the name of the recipe actually has the words "Crusting" and "Viva" in it!!! I've never tried it, before, but it has good reviews, and I plan on using it next weekend. HTH. Happy baking! icon_smile.gif

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