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Dayti Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 3:39pm
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Absolutely true. The cocoa reacted with the baking soda. Dutch processing now neutralizes that reaction.

I always thought the red came from using beetroot?

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cakebreezy Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 4:37pm
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i agree

to get the icing uniform you need to measure it out, two scoops, per layer, more or less depending on the size of the cake, of course

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DeliciousDesserts Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 5:07pm
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I always thought the red came from using beetroot?

No.

I've never heard of using beet root?

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as you wish Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 5:17pm
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AI have heard of using beet roots for the red colour, but not as part of the original red velvet recipe. I understand it to be something that has been developed by people who don't want to use the food colouring.

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lovelovefood Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 5:42pm
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Very nice cake! I'm impressed!

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JWinslow Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 6:02pm
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Then I look at JWinslows cake and I'm like a little kindergarden kid looking in the window of the local bakery. And I am in AWE of her talent.   Just remembering our very first cakes is sure to give you a laugh.

Awe,  thank you!  I have taken the advice from members here over the years and try to apply it to all my cakes.

From ApplegumPam - Foundation, Foundation, Foundation

From FromScratch,SF - Make the cake look as pretty on the inside as out.

From AZ,  - Less is more (still learning this one).

From Delicious Desserts - analyze your cake and make it better next time.

 

I just needed to say thank you -

 

Jeanne

 

 

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BeckyRink Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 7:09pm
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The best way to keep it uniform is to pipe it on using a 1A then smooth it out gently to remove the lines and airbubbles.

 

After having worked for a greeting card company supplying cakes for photos, it looks like it was photo-shopped to make it look clean and perfect.

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howsweet Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 7:34pm
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I haven't done cakes just for photos, but I agree.  And I'm pretty sure the colors were intensified in Photoshop, especially the purple.

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Luv Cake Blog Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 7:38pm
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It's near impossible to advise on how much buttercream they used in this cake as we have no idea how big the cake is. My advise would be to measure out two equal lots of buttercream and them spread them on with a spatula.

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howsweet Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 7:42pm
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I always thought the red came from using beetroot?


That's what I always thought, too, because I've seen many recipes using beets and figured that must be what what was originally used before red dye was available. But according to this article, the recipe was originated by Adam's, the spice and extract company, and they came up with the recipe and put it on bottles as a way to increase food coloring sales during the depression.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/48990/how-red-velvet-cake-got-its-name

 

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FromScratchSF Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 8:03pm
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I know this is getting slightly off topic, but this is why I am slowly growing to hate Pinterest because the photos that go viral on there are magazine photos or extremely popular full-time paid bloggers that's main job to make the food as pretty as possible no mater what or it's fake food manipulated to do what food will never do.  Like I said, I'm totally guilty every week of this when I make a dessert that I sell for a popular delivery service here where I live.  They have extremely strict rules about getting the dish styled and photographed by a woman that used to work for Bon Appitite before they will approve the dish for sale.  She makes my stuff look AMAZING but it's manipulated - although I demand that she manipulates it as little as possible so it's representative of what is actually delivered.  But my own personal portfolio or pictures on my website, I only photoshop lighting conditions and color correct, I have long ago stopped trying to hide any flaws on the cake itself because I am not perfect and if there is a flaw, then the potential customer should be able to see my flaw.

 

If you haven't seen this video, you need to watch it because the way they manipulate the photo of this woman is the exact same way they manipulate the photos for food:

 


 

Anyway, my point is, the stuff that gets put in front of my face at every consultation 95% of the time are fake cakes that have been styled using inedible items in completely unrealistic circumstances (who the heck came up with the china cabinet full of perfect little desserts around the perfect 3 tiered cake in the middle of the freakin woods next to the perfect model in the $20,000 wedding dress lounging on a vintage couch?) and manipulated the heck out of the finished photos for publication or for putting on the internet.  You know, "swoon worthy"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  

 

OK, rant over, I hope your tie dye cake comes out great!

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as you wish Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 8:09pm
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I know this is getting slightly off topic, but this is why I am slowly growing to hate Pinterest because the photos that go viral on there are magazine photos or extremely popular full-time paid bloggers that's main job to make the food as pretty as possible no mater what or it's fake food manipulated to do what food will never do.  Like I said, I'm totally guilty every week of this when I make a dessert that I sell for a popular delivery service here where I live.  They have extremely strict rules about getting the dish styled and photographed by a woman that used to work for Bon Appitite before they will approve the dish for sale.  She makes my stuff look AMAZING but it's manipulated - although I demand that she manipulates it as little as possible so it's representative of what is actually delivered.  But my own personal portfolio or pictures on my website, I only photoshop lighting conditions and color correct, I have long ago stopped trying to hide any flaws on the cake itself because I am not perfect and if there is a flaw, then the potential customer should be able to see my flaw.

If you haven't seen this video, you need to watch it because the way they manipulate the photo of this woman is the exact same way they manipulate the photos for food:

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEZwEhJvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHEZwEhJvI[/URL]

Anyway, my point is, the stuff that gets put in front of my face at every consultation 95% of the time are fake cakes that have been styled using inedible items in completely unrealistic circumstances (who the heck came up with the china cabinet full of perfect little desserts around the perfect 3 tiered cake in the middle of the freakin woods next to the perfect model in the $20,000 wedding dress lounging on a vintage couch?) and manipulated the heck out of the finished photos for publication or for putting on the internet.  You know, "swoon worthy"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  

OK, rant over, I hope your tie dye cake comes out great!

Exactly!

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FromScratchSF Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 8:10pm
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I haven't done cakes just for photos, but I agree.  And I'm pretty sure the colors were intensified in Photoshop, especially the purple.

 

I have been completely unsuccessful in my many attempts to make a purple cake.  I've tried many types of batter, heck I even bought box mix to try and make a proper purple, I've used powdered colors, gel colors etc and no matter what color the batter looked in the bowl, it always changed dramatically when baked and turned ugly.  So I agree - anytime I see anything purple in food I think "photoshopped!".  Of course I could always be wrong (It does happen quite a lot!) but I ran this one thru the ringer.  I would never be able to make a cake as purple as that photo is.  I also can't make purple fondant.  I've thrown in the towel on that one also.  I buy premade and encourage as little use of the color in the design as possible.

 

I am not looking forward to Pantone's next color of the year.  Bite me "radiant orchid".  Seriously?  What the heck is "radient orchid"?  

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as you wish Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 8:15pm
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I have been completely unsuccessful in my many attempts to make a purple cake.  I've tried many types of batter, heck I even bought box mix to try and make a proper purple, I've used powdered colors, gel colors etc and no matter what color the batter looked in the bowl, it always changed dramatically when baked and turned ugly.  So I agree - anytime I see anything purple in food I think "photoshopped!".  Of course I could always be wrong (It does happen quite a lot!) but I ran this one thru the ringer.  I would never be able to make a cake as purple as that photo is.  I also can't make purple fondant.  I've thrown in the towel on that one also.  I buy premade and encourage as little use of the color in the design as possible.

I am not looking forward to Pantone's next color of the year.  Bite me "radiant orchid".  Seriously?  What the heck is "radient orchid"?  

That's funny; my colour nemesis is orange. Whenever I make orange fondant it looks okay in reality, but the photos always come out looking flesh-toned. And that's just gross!

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howsweet Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by FromScratchSF 
 

 

I have been completely unsuccessful in my many attempts to make a purple cake.  I've tried many types of batter, heck I even bought box mix to try and make a proper purple, I've used powdered colors, gel colors etc and no matter what color the batter looked in the bowl, it always changed dramatically when baked and turned ugly.  So I agree - anytime I see anything purple in food I think "photoshopped!".  Of course I could always be wrong (It does happen quite a lot!) but I ran this one thru the ringer.  I would never be able to make a cake as purple as that photo is.  I also can't make purple fondant.  I've thrown in the towel on that one also.  I buy premade and encourage as little use of the color in the design as possible.

 

I am not looking forward to Pantone's next color of the year.  Bite me "radiant orchid".  Seriously?  What the heck is "radient orchid"?  


I sincerely hope it's not going to be the year of the purple cake. I use a digital camera, and digital cameras pretty much won't photogaph purple. I don't want to be photoshopping purple back into all of my photos all year!  :lol:  I did two purple cakes this weekend...

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JWinslow Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 9:32pm
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I am not looking forward to Pantone's next color of the year.  Bite me "radiant orchid".  Seriously?  What the heck is "radient orchid"?  

I saw that.  My reaction was just - Noooooooo, please!  We all know how hard it is to have any shade of purple hold it's color.  At least their version has a lot of pink in it.  One of my cakes I did in varying shades of lavender just looked more grey to the camera.  Frustrating.

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-K8memphis Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 9:59pm
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it's a dull barney color--not fun

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MBalaska Posted 11 Jan 2014 , 10:04pm
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so for real purple we'd have to use the dye made by the ancient Minoan civilization in Crete produced from the mucus of the hypobranchial gland of various species of marine mollusks, notably Murex. It took some 12,000 shellfish to extract 1.5 grams of the pure dye.    Pew that would be stinky.

 

I'm sooooo relieved that purple doesn't digitally work for others, mine usually comes out blue in photos.

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kmanning Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 12:22am
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Awe, come on, it's just cake, right :D

OK, here's the video in case you all want a laugh:

[URL=http://instagram.com/p/dpNoVGGxN2/]http://instagram.com/p/dpNoVGGxN2/[/URL]

LOL

Pin  = 0 Cake = 1

Dang rolling pin! Really beautiful cake, noticed some people were just mad that they couldn't eat it. #lightenup!

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auzzi Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 12:42am
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-K8memphis Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 12:46am
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so for real purple we'd have to use the dye made by the ancient Minoan civilization in Crete produced from the mucus of the hypobranchial gland of various species of marine mollusks, notably Murex. It took some 12,000 shellfish to extract 1.5 grams of the pure dye.    Pew that would be stinky.

 

I'm sooooo relieved that purple doesn't digitally work for others, mine usually comes out blue in photos.

 

whoa mb--that's heavy stuff  :lol: smelly vintage minoans huh (no offense to any surviving cretian mins.)

 

and yes my photos of purple cakes are blue too *:-)/\:-) high five

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Apti Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 1:23am
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It's the photo from a Duff’s Tie-Dye Cake Mix packet .. a "18.25oz Premium Cake Mix" 

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00COCDTT6/?tag=cakecentral-20

 

or

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008J5A09E/?tag=cakecentral-20

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F8KSKPE/?tag=cakecentral-20

 

 

[http://www.duff.com/]


So.....if I buy those cake mixes, will MY cakes look just like the pictures????

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MBalaska Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 1:48am
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Yes Apti.  and you can sell them for $10,000 dollars American.

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costumeczar Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 5:47pm
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Purple doesn't photograph correctly on film either, it's a light thing. Red and blue are on opposite ends of the visible light spectrum, and that makes it hard for camera sensors to read purple. Magenta is another one that gets washed out.

 

There was a photo filter that I used to have for my Nikon that would make purple photograph in the correct way, but without the filter is just looked blue. Now you just have to adjust it in photoshop afterward, but I'm with FromSratch about fixing flaws on the cake itself. I once saw someone who was asked how she got her icing so smooth, and she said "photoshop." Tricky.

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JWinslow Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 
 

Purple doesn't photograph correctly on film either, it's a light thing. Red and blue are on opposite ends of the visible light spectrum, and that makes it hard for camera sensors to read purple. Magenta is another one that gets washed out.

 

There was a photo filter that I used to have for my Nikon that would make purple photograph in the correct way, but without the filter is just looked blue. Now you just have to adjust it in photoshop afterward, but I'm with FromSratch about fixing flaws on the cake itself. I once saw someone who was asked how she got her icing so smooth, and she said "photoshop." Tricky.

Good to know.  I don't have photoshop but I can make minor light adjustments which helps with color correcting.

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FromScratchSF Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:30pm
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Ah, if it's a mix then it probably will come out that color because it's genetically engineered to come out that color (but I still think the pic was PS the heck out if it).  Just look at the entire panel of "ingredients" that go into that tie dye cake on the box!  So yeah, I guess you have no worries there.

 

I, yes, me, recently bought the zebra Duff mix because it was on sale for $2 at the store, I normally see it for $8+ and I'm a scratch baker so no way would I ever spend $8 on a mix let alone $2, but long story short I bought it and made it - my advice - make sure if you want a 3 layered cake like the photo you buy 3 mixes because my 1 mix barley made the suggested single pan of 9" round.  And since I didn't read the instructions at the store I missed the part on the box saying it "makes 1 pan of 9" round".  I guess you are just supposed to forget that the photo on the front shows 3 layers.  HAHA anyway no way could this thing be torted to 3 layers.  I tried to tort it to 2 like I always do with my cakes but because it's a mix (and I'm not used to that) it was really soft and totally crumbly.    

 

So I revise my advice: if you want your cake to look like the photo on the box - you need 3 mixes perfectly baked, torted to 1" high with an abgay, a quick icer and a ruler to put exactly 1/4" of buttercream on it, a fondant sheeter to roll your fondant to the perfect thickness (using Duff fondant, of course haha) and a pasta roller to do the dots and roll them to the perfect exact same thickness.  Then Photoshop the photos to clean up all the crumbs and uneven bits in the photo using at least a $2000 DSLR camera using a 50mm lens.

 

I am seriously only writing this because what is on the cover of the box of practically anything you buy is not what you are going to end up with at home.

 

I wish you the best of luck!  Perfection is possible, but like I said you need patience and the right tools.

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FromScratchSF Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:33pm
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Oh and come to think of it, my stripes were no where near as thick as they were in the photo on the box, so if I were trying to reproduce the stripes like they did, I'd probably use 2 mixes and use them in one pan to get those nice, perfect thick stripes.

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-K8memphis Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:39pm
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just an aside but still about multi colored cakes--i am always amazed at what my local grocery store carries in the way of cake deco toys--they have a plastic device to insert into your cupcake wrapper to pour tri colored cupcakes----

 

who woulda ever thought? and available at the grocery store--srsly?

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as you wish Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:41pm
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just an aside but still about multi colored cakes--i am always amazed at what my local grocery store carries in the way of cake deco toys--they have a plastic device to insert into your cupcake wrapper to pour tri colored cupcakes----

who woulda ever thought? and available at the grocery store--srsly?

No kidding! I was wandering through Walmart the other day and was staggered at all the cake decorating stuff there! And they make it all look so nifty that I wanted to buy a bunch of it, even though I have no use for it!

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howsweet Posted 12 Jan 2014 , 6:50pm
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My old camera photographed purple perfectly well. It photographed everything beautifully. That camera couldn't take a bad picture. I paid about $1700 for it years ago. It was digital, but recorded on those little mini discs.  I was advised by "an expert" that my new $200 camera would take even better pictures because of improved technology. He couldn't have been more wrong. So I have to assume one can still get a good digital camera that can photograph purple, but from what I've read on camera forums, you can definitely pay a whole lot for a high end camera and still not get purple

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