Originally Posted by bubs1stbirthday
Completely agree (not that I get any money back for anything I make) but I don't understand why people think it is not ok to get the cost of the ingredients back - if I were to help my sister to put up her fence and I picked up and paid for the fencing materials I would certainly think it was on the proviso that she reimburse for the materials so I really don't understand the difference there, it doesn't make me a fencer, simply a person helping out my sister. Also I am not asking for someone to explain it to me - in my belief it just doesn't and will never make sense.
I don't think anyone really cares if you get reimbursed for cost of supplies for cakes made for friends and family. Where it starts to matter is when you sell a cake that you KNOW you undercharged for to friends-of-friends-of-family. We all know there are those people who try to hide behind being a "hobbyist" but are really selling a lot of under priced cakes so they make extra money without reporting any of it. THAT is what makes legal bakers most upset. A few bad apples have spoiled the barrel, so to speak.
It's the extra money, on top of ingredients, that they make without reporting it as income. Legal bakers DO report it as income and have to pay taxes and insurance and make less profit because of it. Then those same people who are used to getting cheap cake freak out at a legal baker over prices that they find "overpriced" when it is really the other way around..the illegal baker has under priced cakes and made legal bakers out to be price gouging and heartless.
It's a lot of work to price out your exact costs, try out recipes to create a menu, set up a website, market yourself in a community, learn and abide by all of the local and state laws and regs, seek out and purchase insurance, register your business, keep track of expenditures..all before even getting to the fun part of baking and decorating a single cake. What doesn't make sense to me is how people can so easily dismiss all of that work by saying that a legal baker is overpriced when they haven't ever sat down to figure out any of the numbers themselves. What's heartless is telling a legal baker that we need to work for $4 an hour to compete with the illegal bakers prices because they haven't done their homework to price out costs and are not compliant with laws and taxes.
I agree that helping your sister with a fence doesn't make you a fencer. But if your sister's neighbor's friend "hires" you to build their fence and pays costs of materials plus an extra $75..that is taking away from a legal fencer who went through all of the right steps to certify their business, pay taxes and pay their workers at least minimum wage. Do you see how that would make the legal person upset?