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This article does a great job of explaining why you shouldn't be giving away free cake, and what to say when you are asked to. 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/opinion/sunday/slaves-of-the-internet-unite.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&smid=tw-share

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Excellent!

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That is priceless! Hope he got paid to write it!

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You mean long hours and intangible benefits is not a viable business model?
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Very well written

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It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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Somebody posted the link to that article on my FB feed yesterday.  I was in a FB conversation earlier with a cookie artist who had nothing but praise for it  :)y

 

I also have a lot of friends who write.  HuffPo reposts some of their blog posts on occasion, but doesn't pay them for it.  In the course of discussion I discovered that HuffPo isn't the only site that does that; consequently, the issue is huge in their community.  I related some of the issues we have with it.  A graphic artist and a musician also chimed in (with them "crowdfunding" is the the equivalent of giving away their work for free).  It's a huge, huge issue not just with us, but with all artists/craftspeople.

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This article does a great job of explaining why you shouldn't be giving away free cake, and what to say when you are asked to. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/opinion/sunday/slaves-of-the-internet-unite.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&smid=tw-share

Well written. Knowing me I would probably add at the end "When everyone else (or you) works for free then I might also." Probably unprofessional, but I don't think I would ever hear from them again. icon_biggrin.gif
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my absolute favorite was a real estate agent who was having a birthday party. she pointed out how many fab people would be at her event and what great exposure it would be (presumably because she was so fab). I wish it had occurred to me, at the time, to ask for her to represent me in a house sale without paying her a commission. 

 

I also wonder who thinks that anyone at a charity event uses a vendor because they have made a donation to the cause? I even doubt that anyone mentions who made the free cake. 

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Thanks for sharing this. I copied his boiler plate to have it on hand icon_smile.gif stay strong everyone!
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my absolute favorite was a real estate agent who was having a birthday party. she pointed out how many fab people would be at her event and what great exposure it would be (presumably because she was so fab). I wish it had occurred to me, at the time, to ask for her to represent me in a house sale without paying her a commission. 

 

I also wonder who thinks that anyone at a charity event uses a vendor because they have made a donation to the cause? I even doubt that anyone mentions who made the free cake. 

bingo ellavanilla   your are spot on.   Learn How To Say NO.

 

ps: IMO There are some truths in the article, but I thought the writer sounded like a whiney welfare brat living in his parents basement.

 

He does not understand nor accept that writers like Steven King or J.K. Rowling make a billlions$$$$ cause people want to read what they have written.  Brad Pitt and Sandra Bullock command millions in fees cause people want to see them perform.

 

There is a HUGE difference between bakers and writers.  He can pick up his computer and write for a thousand years and it doesn't cost him more than Pennies.  He can sit on the bench in a coffee house sipping latte like a bum and 'creatively write.'

 

you have to put out a tremendous amount of  MONEY, as well as creative effort. You're humping in a kitchen until 2 in the morning and caring for your family, or cleaning up your shop after a days work.

meanwhile he's simpering about the horrible successful 'capitalists' ruining his life. Somebody is putting a roof over his head, putting food into his mouth, and paying his internet bill. some damnable successful capitalist artist is working to make that happen, maybe even a tax paying writer, actor, bakery owner or pastry chef.

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There is a HUGE difference between bakers and writers.  He can pick up his computer and write for a thousand years and it doesn't cost him more than Pennies.  He can sit on the bench in a coffee house sipping latte like a bum and 'creatively write.'

you have to put out a tremendous amount of  MONEY, as well as creative effort. You're humping in a kitchen until 2 in the morning and caring for your family, or cleaning up your shop after a days work.

Whereas being able to earn a living as a writer requires no money or creative effort?
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Geez looeez alaska whatever your name is- what a crappy-@$$, small-minded way to completely invalidate someone else's creative work.

Walk a mile in someone else's shoes and it'll give you a much-needed perspective on the situations of others who also have creative jobs.

You think writing is so easy? Well let's see you do it then. I mean, anyone can sit at the coffee house sll day with a pen, a pad and a latte in front of them. A painter? No problem! Anyone can buy brushes and canvas and paints. Cake decorator? Evrn easier (and cheaper)!! Cake mixes and canned frosting are chesp at Wsl-mart. You know how pissy you get when someone complains about cake prices and how they can get that same cake for 19.99 st the grocery store.
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In the same way that we talk about educating our cake customers, we could be trying to educate people about writers. There was a recent thread where posters said how much money authors make. Not!  

 

For the most part, writers come up with ideas, spend hours and hours and more damn hours, writing revising revising editing writing and writing more. We are paid nothing until our work is published. And payment is usually less than $1 per book sold. (I'll skip the part about people just getting a book from the library or writing nasty book reviews.)  

 

In the meantime, most writers work at crappy part time jobs to pay their bills. I don't have parents with a basement, I have a family and a mortgage and a crappy part time job to supplement my real job, which is helping people create an income. Sorry MB, I wasn't directing this at you, I was just explaining the realities of the writers' life. 

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post #14 of 59

absolutely true MimiFix:

IMO the work you put into your books has paid off !!  I have proudly  validated your writing by purchasing your book. It is packed with good info.

 

Mimi Fix - Your book is on my book shelf with Martha Stewart, Rose Berenbaum, Collette Peters, Sylvia Weinstock, Alan Dunn etc.

 

I put my money where my mouth is and I support baking/decorating talent.  By purchasing  peoples books, dvds, magazines, and online courses is my way of rewarding them for the hard work and value they put into their creations.

 

I would pay to go to your classes or shop in your bakery, I would not pay to buy the other article writers words. and I apologize to you for my insensitivity.

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I would pay to go to your classes or shop in your bakery, I would not pay to buy the other article writers words.

You already paid for the article writer's words by clicking the link and giving the NY Times additional ad impressions.
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