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That a bit of a distance - like a 10 hour drive?  Queensland is my favorite state!  It's morning there now, right? It's evening here, going to get dark soon. For some reason I have trouble wrapping my brain around that. Do you ever get to the coast? I have friends who traveled from Brisbane up the countryside northward and they kept saying that the snakes jump out on you from the trees and then laughing hysterically. I never got the joke haha!

 

Yes, it's about half past 10 on tuesday morning here. I have a sick little person laying around on my lap - hence all the time to be posting this morning!

 

I grew up in Brisbane, which is on the coast, so we get there pretty often, and we ususally spend a couple of weeks at the beach once a year. It's about a 3 hour drive to the coast from here. We tend to travel at about 100km/hr, so a 1300km drive would take at least 13 hours, plus breaks. I've been to Townsville once - it's a beautiful place. High heat and humidity, though, so no good for cake!

 

There are a lot of poisonous species of snakes and spiders and jellyfish and other things here, but you actually don't come across them very often. But it's a bit of a running joke that poisonous creatures will leap out at you from every nook and cranny in Australia. Especially told to nervous tourists - so maybe that was the joke?

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Yes, it's about half past 10 on tuesday morning here. I have a sick little person laying around on my lap - hence all the time to be posting this morning!

 

I grew up in Brisbane, which is on the coast, so we get there pretty often, and we ususally spend a couple of weeks at the beach once a year. It's about a 3 hour drive to the coast from here. We tend to travel at about 100km/hr, so a 1300km drive would take at least 13 hours, plus breaks. I've been to Townsville once - it's a beautiful place. High heat and humidity, though, so no good for cake!

 

There are a lot of poisonous species of snakes and spiders and jellyfish and other things here, but you actually don't come across them very often. But it's a bit of a running joke that poisonous creatures will leap out at you from every nook and cranny in Australia. Especially told to nervous tourists - so maybe that was the joke?

So sorry to hear your little one is sick. When they're sick can be the best cuddle time though, if anything like my kids were. They never wanted to slow down if they were well - haha.

 

In Texas the speed limit out on the highways is like 70mph and everyone drives 79 (which is about 127 kph). It's really stupid and a wonder anyone is still alive...I'm so jealous, 3 hours from a gorgeous beach. The closest beach to me is Galveston and the water is the color of coffee with cream and you can't see what's in there. We do have jellies, but they aren't deadly. And even though the water's not blue, it still has a salt breeze, ocean smells and sounds. We used to rent a beach front house every summer and Hurricane Ike washed away everything we could afford. From what i could tell when I was looking at real estate online, it looks like in Ausralia you're not allowed to build anything there that can't withstand the surge, is that true?

 

I think I would have loved Townsville and they probably would have loved the Tex Mex food.

 

The poisonous creatures... I'm sure that must have been it about the animals. They're both biologists so I guess that was partly why they thought it was so incredibly funny. Thanks!

 

On a side note, I love the Queensland accent - had an acquaintance from Brisbane and I loved to hear him speak. One of my best customers is from the west coast and his is entirely different. I've heard from people I believe that no one likes the American accent - haha. Oh well! :)

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Box mix is definitely an American thing, I'm from the UK originally and you just wouldn't find a custom cake shop using a box mix. They exist, but primarily for having a fun afternoon with the kids, if you want a serious cake you bake it from scratch.
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I get comments quite often from people saying they can tell I don't bake from a mix, but then, there are a lot of bakers in the area who use straight mix. No doctoring up/adding extras in, etc, so the difference in texture and flavour is far more noticeable.

 

When you aren't tasting two products side by side, it can be tricky to tell the difference.

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I bake from scratch and since I started, I can tell the difference. My husband now can as well. They had a birthday cake for someone in his hangar and he came home to tell me that he could tell it was boxed cake and not as good as mine. Not everyone can tell the difference, but once you get used to scratch, there isn't usually any going back. That being said, to each their own. You do what works for you.

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Box mix is definitely an American thing, I'm from the UK originally and you just wouldn't find a custom cake shop using a box mix........

kikiandkyle, it seems that cakes made in UK, Australia, NZ don't have the collapsing layers falling over problem like the American cakes.  It seems that the cakes in these countries are much denser and firmer.  Then you cover them with a layer of almond paste and Royal Icing or fondant.  Do they hold up pretty well, is this an accurate estimation.  How would you compare the cakes texture?

I love the holidays when the heavy dense chewy Fruit Nut cakes are available in the US.

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The only cakes that are covered in almond paste (marzipan) or royal icing are fruit cakes which are reserved for Christmas, and the occasional old school wedding. Everything else is just cake made with butter, sugar, eggs and flour like here in the US.
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The only cakes that are covered in almond paste (marzipan) or royal icing are fruit cakes which are reserved for Christmas, and the occasional old school wedding. Everything else is just cake made with butter, sugar, eggs and flour like here in the US.

 

This ... Its not all fruitcake and almond icing...we do cakes just like you do in the States...just not from a box :)
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It would be so interesting to travel to other countries and explore the pastry shops. I've purchased several books on baking/decorating that are from UK, AU, NZ as well as the US.

 

I started this OP as I was frustrated, but now I see that I was quite simply 'low knowledge'.  Now It's apparent that box mixes, scratch recipes, and a combination of the two such as the WASC are all nice in their own way.   Cheers everyone.

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The pastry shops in France were phenomenal! The food was just too pretty to eat.

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The pastry shops in France were phenomenal! The food was just too pretty to eat.

I so agree with this.  Pastry heaven!  

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The pastry shops in France were phenomenal! The food was just too pretty to eat.

Impossible :)

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totally agree when I was in Europe last year my diet consisted of 90% sweets. I barely ate regular food. I was in heaven. I kept trying to figure out how I can smuggle some of that butter back into the states without it melting. 

 

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I just saw a documentary on TV (ABC, or Dateline, one of those).  They did the tasting of 3 wedding cakes:  (1) Fancy designer bakery cake, (2) Grocery store cake, (3) cake from a store box mix made by the tv show producer.  Guess which cake EVERY test group (kids, brides, men, etc)  picked as the best/tastiest/moistest?  The cake made from the STORE BOX MIX!

 

I love box mixes for taste, consistency, ease of use, and value.

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I just saw a documentary on TV (ABC, or Dateline, one of those).  They did the tasting of 3 wedding cakes:  (1) Fancy designer bakery cake, (2) Grocery store cake, (3) cake from a store box mix made by the tv show producer.  Guess which cake EVERY test group (kids, brides, men, etc)  picked as the best/tastiest/moistest?  The cake made from the STORE BOX MIX!

 

I love box mixes for taste, consistency, ease of use, and value.

It wasn't a documentary. It was a cheesy silly little "experiment" and the tasters were a Honey Boo Boo pageant toddler, a drag queen that jumps out fake cake, a man who strips for over ***ed housewives at smelly nightclubs, and someone else I don't remember. Either way, it was not an accurate representation of a group of people who would at that moment, seriously trying to decide what cake to choose for their wedding. 

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