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post #16 of 63
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Ok, I'm not intending to break any laws, so after your advice Jason, I told my co-worker I will be doing both cakes free of charge. She is very tight on money anyway and this certainly helps her. I am also not attaching my name or any business name to either cake. I need the practice with both design and the volume of baking/decorating. I did not realize how strict the laws are and seeing as I actually work for a court, I don't need to break any. So rather than this being my first business order, I am simply baking cakes for my co-worker.
post #17 of 63

For future reference though, clients that are very tight on money should be referred to a grocery store or somewhere else. There's no reason for a hard working custom decorator to cater to extremely low budgets.

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post #18 of 63
Still feels good to get the first willing order!

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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post #19 of 63

Uh, "AZCouture," my understanding is that "newbe86" is, at least for the moment, no more a professional cake decorator than I am: I'm a programmer who bakes and decorates a few cakes a year for friends and family (the closest I've gotten to being professional with baked goods was accepting reimbursement, and in one case an unsolicited tip, for the fruits of the wood type cookie project), and "newbe86" "actually work[s] for a court" (and presumably makes a decent living doing so), and is preparing to go semiprofessional with cake decorating.

 

Nothing wrong with doing a freebie for a friend. If my best friend (a videographer specializing in figure skating) is in genuine and severe financial trouble, or if I feel I haven't performed up to the standards I set for myself, or have somehow eroded his reputation for quality, I will steadfastly refuse all compensation, no matter how much I may have worked my butt off. And likewise, I spend most of my Saturdays docenting at the International Printing Museum, frequently working my butt off and donating materials, with no compensation other than fellowship with other graphic arts geeks, and unfettered access (so long as it's not on a for-profit basis) to printing equipment.

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post #20 of 63
Uh, hb, I'm giving her good advice, and I think it's perfectly clear as written 'for future reference'. To me, the words real order mean someone wants to get serious. I stand by my advice.
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post #21 of 63
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Uh, hb, I'm giving her good advice, and I think it's perfectly clear as written 'for future reference'. To me, the words real order mean someone wants to get serious. I stand by my advice.

I see what he was saying. If it is for a friend, exceptions and deals are made. The friend was willing to pay. No need to send her to the grocery store, especially when this girl is just starting and just wants the experience.

post #22 of 63
Don't let people scare you icon_smile.gif you didn't know but no you do. I never use the shaped cake pans. I feel like its cheating. I do everything homemade even my icing. You can recreate Elmo very easily with a Wilton grass tip for fur. I did a furry red monster cupcake cake for my cousin last weekend. Elmo has simple shape and lines. Whatever you do, do your best. And don't take the easy way out icon_smile.gif
post #23 of 63
Oh and also I found out through experience that when you first start out, it's a good idea to do some free things. It gives you experience and it gets your name out there icon_smile.gif
post #24 of 63
Just like it's cheating to use edible printing to put something on a cake that's way beyond your skills with a piping bag? Or use somebody else's mass-produced royal/gumpaste/fondant flowers, or a DecoPac kit?


To be honest, when I went out and photographed the roses in the back yard, GIMP'd them, and had a sheet of edible printing made, it was cheating, just as it was cheating for me to hand-pipe a picture of a rose onto a previous cake for my mother, but I honestly don't have the time or the energy to learn how to pipe roses, and the dense, hand-mixed, non-whipped BC I use has a tendency to slump anyway. But I'll do anything, within the bounds of what's food-safe, and what's within my budget, to get as close to the cake I have in my head as possible.

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post #25 of 63
Yes I do believe it is. I do not use any of them things. I feel like if someone is getting me to make them a homemade cake that I should give them a homemade cake. If they wanted massed produced cakes they can go to Walmart. I'm not knocking the people do but it is my opinion that if you don't know how to do something that you need to do whatever you can to learn how to do it. You can not call yourself a "baker" or a "cake decorator" if you take cheap shortcuts. If I don't know how to do something than I tell the person that I don't know how to do that yet but I can give you another option. That is better than going to Walmart and buying a pack of pre made fondant or using a boxed cake mix. You should always give people your best.
post #26 of 63
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Yes I do believe it is. I do not use any of them things. I feel like if someone is getting me to make them a homemade cake that I should give them a homemade cake. If they wanted massed produced cakes they can go to Walmart.

How is using a shaped cake pan or edible image as a shortcut for individual custom orders equivalent to mass-produced Walmart cakes?

As long as you meet the customer's requirements, the production methods involved in creating the product are irrelevant.
post #27 of 63
I'm not saying everyone else has to feel the same way I do. I'm saying that's the way I feel. It's my opinion. I pride myself in know that I do everything homemade.
post #28 of 63
That's why I said "in my opinion" I believe that if you work hard enough you can have the skills to do all those things.
post #29 of 63
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Originally Posted by SweetRyanBaker View Post

Don't let people scare you icon_smile.gif you didn't know but no you do. I never use the shaped cake pans. I feel like its cheating. I do everything homemade even my icing. You can recreate Elmo very easily with a Wilton grass tip for fur. I did a furry red monster cupcake cake for my cousin last weekend. Elmo has simple shape and lines. Whatever you do, do your best. And don't take the easy way out icon_smile.gif

Thank you. I've got 6 weeks until the party. I'm sure I can make a pretty good Elmo, practice is certainly in order and I've watched tutorials using the 233 tip, it looks like something I can do. Thank you for your help and advice... Looks like a weekend with a bag, tip and homemade bc is in order.
post #30 of 63
Just make sure you get the large grass tip and not the small one or it will take you forever. And honestly this took me 30 minutes. The fur goes really fast. It's deff more fun than hard work icon_smile.gif another thing, use ameri color red food coloring its the best way to get red. Any Wilton reds will never be a true bright red. Good luck icon_smile.gif
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