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post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 

Here's a link to the final law that was passed:

 

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2013-14%20ENR/hB/HB1094%20ENR.PDF
 

post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by justme50 View Post

Here's a link to the final law that was passed:

 

http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2013-14%20ENR/hB/HB1094%20ENR.PDF
 

Got it, Thank you!

post #18 of 26

Wow...CC is certainly sensitive regarding Kerry Vincent...who I believe has done a great deal for Oklahoma and the sugar art industry in general!  But I also feel opinions about HER opinions are fair discussion...especially from those of us who live in this state and who take offense at her remarks.  She should feel proud that Oklahoma took this step!  

 

This bill will help people like me who don't do enough cakes in a year to justify the expense of jumping through all the legalities it would take for me to recoup the expenses for the small amount of work I do. 

 

I bake and decorate cakes for friends and family and the occasional 'friend of a friend'.  I love the creativity and the learning process.  I spend a great deal of money on supplies and have taken internet lessons (Craftsy anyone?), and I enjoy presenting a professional product.  I don't want to make a living at it...I  just want to be able to pay for my hobby and maybe make a little profit (which will probably go back to supplies).   This bill addresses that and Cake Divas (and I use that term as a complement) like Kerry Vincent who command top dollar (and they should) for their incredible creations are in no way threatened by this bill!  

 

I am not planning on charging a discount price for my work to undercut a bakery...nor can I legally advertise since this law has determined those who abide by it are NOT a business!  We will have to have a label on our boxes that state the cake or baked good inside is not from a licensed kitchen, and we must have a description of the product.   

 

I will however be able to provide a service to those who like my cakes and choose me to produce a quality product--and I will be able to be compensated for my efforts-- up to a point.   $20K a year is not much...like $160 a month...no one's getting rich!  But I do think this bill paves the way for many hobbyists who may not have ever thought they'd be able to become a full-time business.  I know  the cake supply stores will benefit.  And decorator stars like Kerry Vincent will learn that there will be an ever growing pool of talent that will most likely enter her shows and pay for her expertise.  Win-win.

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post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by justme50 View Post

For all they know I have mice doing a hula dance on the counters while I'm baking. Being licensed means nothing as far as the health and safety of the public.

 

LOL!!  I know...I worked at a small bakery  and the health department came by once.  Our place was good --we kept it spotless--but there was a caterer next door whose place was gross...we shared a wall and had to constantly keep the exterminator on call to keep the bugs from his place from coming over to ours.  He was never fined or warned. 

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post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
I did have to laugh when I read comments about local health departments being furious over this law. Not in my county! I have an addition built on that meets state requirements- for the most part. My inspector gave me a pass on having a bathroom and a few other things- He complained to me how ridiculous it was that it was actually against the law to sell cakes from home.

But it's the law now. icon_smile.gif Those that don't like it should've spoken up and got involved.
post #21 of 26

Yeah, I'm so excited about this.  It's nice to hear I have the freedom to bake and sell my own cakes at home.  My house is super clean and I wouldn't ever try to endanger anyones health.  I have a natural talent for decorating cakes and why not make a little money from it from home.  We to go Legislature!

post #22 of 26
Hello I have a question and it may be a stupid one to most but here goes...
I have called the health department and confirmed I am free to start bakeing and selling my cakes
from home with no license requirements. My question is what about sales taxes. Do I need to register as a business?
I'm so excited, I just want to make sure I am following all the laws....
Lastly someone mentioned insurance as a protection to me in case someone try's to say my
Cakes caused them to get sick...is this something I need to consider...
Thanks in advance to any and all who respond....
post #23 of 26

Yes we do need to register.  Insurance is definitely an option to look into.  :)

post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by justme50 View Post

Just took a look at her facebook page- wow, she's really livid about the tv interview that was done at her workshop. I'll just never understand why professional bakers who are talented beyond most of our dreams are so threatened by home bakers.

 
Because home bakers generally as group under charge. The law opens the door to people who may be incredibly talented as decorators, but completely clueless in business. Why does that matter? Because when home bakers charge less than what a person whose sole source of income in cakes has to charge, they can't compete. It's very sad to see homemakers playing at business and in the process tearing down the businesses of mom and pop cakeries.

I am a home baker in Texas and I often get ultimatums from customers. As in, I'd rather have you make my cake, but only if you can do it for half your quote because I have someone who'll do it for that.

I don't have to know who it is to know it's a home baker whose business is subsidized by another income. How do I know? Because the sole source of income for my household is my cake business and I'm just making it and I don't even have a house payment.

So when you all start making cakes, I hope you take the time to find out what you should be charging. Unfortunately, some don't even know how to do that. I've seen posts here on Cc with people sort of bragging that they don't under charge when they weren't even close. (not talking about the person above who said she wasn't going to undercharge) .

A couple of tips, these should be obvious to anyone in the cake business, but unfortunately are not always :
1) you can't call a bakery, get their base price per serving and think you know what they charge for cake. My base price is $5, but I never do a cake for less than $6.35.

2) you can't rely on these cake costing calculators to a accurately price a cake

3) you can't as usually ask other home bakers what to charge because its typical for them to undercharge. Yes, there's a supply and demand issue at work there, but in this case it's a situation of unfair competition. No one should be supporting unfair competition. The federal Trade laws and system of free trade is based on the assumption that people will price according to their own best interests. Hard as it is to wrap your brain around, lots of home bakers are not doing that.

5) speaking of hard to wrap... Most homemakers can't afford their own cakes, so they have trouble charging appropriately. High end custom cakes are a luxury item.
post #25 of 26
That should have read home bakers, not homemakers... Typing on my phone.

And here's another example of people who really have comparatively little experience in a business thinking they know more than seasoned veterans.
Edited by howsweet - 11/21/13 at 9:54am
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by bikemom3 View Post

What's funny is that she and other "licensed bakers" are willing to take the $$$ of us home bakers who attend these workshops. icon_wink.gif
 I'm so thankful for those hard working dedicated people who never gave up. icon_biggrin.gif
it's really not all that funny if you ask me. A big reason so many bakers teach is because liberal cottage food laws make it harder to support themselves with just selling cakes.
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