Another Day, Need More Advice! Wedding Cake Batter Mess.

Baking By lvtig1 Updated 21 Mar 2013 , 3:10am by denetteb

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-K8memphis Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 12:52am
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it will be easier for your husband to carry if you could find any kind of box maybe??

 

but if he's got it ok--that's cool

 

but a 24" bottom board that's kind of unweildy

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lvtig1 Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 2:00am
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You are also too funny!  The mess in the oven I thought I handled pretty well, thanks to YOU!    (and mom's Ativan!  he he he!)  Panicking is NOT a meltdown.  A meltdown is actual tears.   I only cried once and that was today, thank you very much!  icon_smile.gif All the doweling is in place and I also used 3 pointed bamboo sticks to hold the two tiers together.  I still have to put on borders and flowers in the morning, and help my daughter make bouquets.  And then there is the decorating where the reception is held.  It just goes on and on.  Seriously, PM me when you get a chance, K8Memphis!  I would like to mail you something after the cake crumbs settle.... 

 

Oh, and I took your advice.  Had hubby cut the board down to 20"!  Much easier to handle.

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denetteb Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 3:48am
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Ivtig, you are something else.  I hope your daughter realizes what a dear, giving woman her mother is.  I know  mine wouldn't have done a tiny bit of what you have done.  It does explain a lot, although I have to say that there are a lot of cakers who are just as unprepared as you but don't have near as good of a reason as you do.  So now in addition to posting a finished cake pic I would love to see a pic of the dress and maybe one of you and your daughter.  That may be pushing it but I would love to see the dress you remade, even if there aren't any faces showing.  I don't normally look at the gallery pics but would love to see one on this thread, hopefully it would be allowed since it relates to this thread, the dress I mean.  I thought earlier in the week that it would be simpler to just go over and give you a hand but I am in MN.  I will be eagerly awaiting more updates.  Hope it is all smooth sailing now, although you still have a lot ahead of you. 

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ivys5652 Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 8:50am
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OK the baking is done YEA.  Frost each layer, if one layer is thicker place that one on the bottom. when filling the cake make sure to place your bead of icing about 1/4 inch from the edge so that when pressed together the icing will come to the edge of the cake. Once you have them iced. Take the clean next size smaller pan upside down; and center it on the bottom tier  the rim will give you a guide circle for placement of your rods. The rods should be 1/4 inch in from the rim circle I usually use 12 roded in a 14 in cake. Remember they need to be even with the cake not to high. Now what I do is take flaked coconut and spread inside the circle. This will make the cake easier to serve. Once your second one is  stacked. Mark where your plate will go repeat the inverted pan and coconut. But before placing the divider plate  cut a dowel 1/4 shorter then your 2 tiers. sharpen one end with a pencil sharpener; take the pointed end and push to the first cardboard then tap with a small hammer sending the dowel into the bottom layer, push all the way down as this secures the cake for transportation. I freeze my cakes at for least 2 hrs before icing as this helps the
with the handling of the big tiers.

 

When you do your next big cake I suggest that when you are baking your cakes that you strip the outside of the pans. Whet I do is buy a heavy weight towel cut into 3" high strips, make smiling faces at the people I know that have a Serge and have the strips serge on the edges. then pull tightly around pan mark it and have the ends serged together. When ready to bake you prepare the pan with your coating. soak the ready made strip in cold water wring out the excess water pull over the pan from the bottom. these will be tight. place pan in freezer for 20 minutes to really get the strip and pan cold. Measure your cake batter and bake. What I do next is when they come out of the oven I take my cake circle and press the cake level while hot. This eliminates having to cut and level your cakes. and the cakes are so moist people have said they melt in their mouth. Good luck and we want pictures!! I don't know what kind of a vehicle you are transporting it in. But your best luck is not the very back of the vehicle, I have a sheet that i place clean towels folded to make the back seat level sit the cake down on this and it does not slide when some yo yo pulls out in front of you and cushions it from the pitfalls of the road conditions.

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lvtig1 Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 12:02pm
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Thanks everyone for your kind words and tips!!  You bakers are truely wonderful and giving!  I promise to post a couple of pics on this thread sometime next week.  It is 5 am here, so am preparing to decorate!  Pray for me.  I have all these flowers and icing and am not sure what I will end up with.  Hopefully no more meltdowns.  Love to you all!!

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ivys5652 Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 12:27pm
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We will wait patiently for the pictures! Have a JOY filled day.
 

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Ann-Jannae Posted 16 Mar 2013 , 12:41pm
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A few things I have learned about the wasc - make sure eggs and sour cream are at room temp if not a slight bit warmer. Make sure to use the batter amounts in wiltons measure it out. Use a flower nail in anything over 8". When it says mix for 2 min that is on a low seep if you have a Kitchen Aid. Pound the pans to get some of the air bubbles out. I also use baking strips - my cakes never rise with a big dome, in fact I have to lower my temp to 320 and they come out perfect.
 

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-K8memphis Posted 19 Mar 2013 , 8:22pm
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where's the pictures?

 

how was the wedding?

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 1:37pm
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Thanks to all of you, the cake turned out fabulous!  People raved and raved about the taste, too!  I wish I would have made more of the chocolate with the Oreo filling, as that is the one that people wanted seconds of and asked for the recipe!  I was so pleased how it turned out (for a rookie, at least).  I was going to include the veil picture, but the rules say no people photos.  I will see if I can crop a segment later.  

 

Again, Thank you from the bottom of my heart!!  Those of you who offered your help, had a part in my success! 

 Cake closeup bottom edge:

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Cake table  The picture below shows the filling showing, but to the naked eye, I never saw an issue

 

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The candle on the table was in memory of my dad who passed away last year.

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 1:39pm
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Looks like if you click on the picture you get a bigger view.  icon_biggrin.gif

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cazza1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 1:50pm
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It looks beautiful.

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denetteb Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 2:00pm
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It turned out fantastic.  I will admit, I was really wondering for a while there what kind of mess you would end up with.  It was a little crazy there for a while in cakeland at your house.  But I am so glad it looked so good and tasted so good and survived stacking and travel, etc.  I was worried about a disaster there too.  So glad it worked out and all your labors and problems paid off.  Well done.  If you hadn't posted pics I think K8 and I would have hunted you down for pictures!!  Thanks for sharing the end result.  By the way, your shimmery flowers are just lovely.

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 2:08pm
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Thank you, Denettbe and cazza1.  The doweling worked perfectly.  Nothing budged after a 20 mile ride with lots of twists and turns.  I had attached the whole cake to the board with lots of double sided tape, then dowels on each level and three bamboo skewers through all layers.  Whew!  I really do appreciate and totally understand the bakers that do this all the time and WHY they charge so much for a wedding cake!  I wouldn't do it again for then than double the going rate.  LOL!  You all are amazing!

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-K8memphis Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 2:55pm
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wow you did amazing!!!

 

that's a stunning display and a beeautiful cake omg

 

and for a first wedding cake--get outa here

 

that dang camera did like x-ray vision that's the choco tier huh

 

it picked up the difference in the icing coverage from the choco cake to the filling

 

the whole table is so elegant, loving and bridal--motorcycle and all!!!

 

so everything went good/great?

 

how did you feel did you get enough rest? (no ;)

 

is it all a blur?

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-K8memphis Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 2:59pm
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and the candle for you dad-- a treasured and sweet sweet touch

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denetteb Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 3:01pm
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Part of the little dark things are the body of little butterflies I think.  You can see one on the close up pic.  There are more, a couple on the bottom tier.  Yes, I spent too much time looking closely at it also.

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-K8memphis Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 3:14pm
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Part of the little dark things are the body of little butterflies I think.  You can see one on the close up pic.  There are more, a couple on the bottom tier.  Yes, I spent too much time looking closely at it also.

 

 

yes little butterflies

 

i meant where the filling is showing around on the second tier--linda mentioned it in her post so i was just saying it's the (dang) camera picking up the contrast in the chocolate cake underneath the icing because she said it was not noticeable to the naked eye

 

thank good ness we have such high falutin cameras to help manufacture issues for us -- and it's a total non-issue that is getting too much type/hype but it's the camera

 

sometimes they work to my advantage and do not pick up cake issues--this time they manufactured one--but seriously i am talking about it too much

 

the cake is not looking like a first cake at all

 

if you would have told me that stunning creation was smoking up the house a few brief hours before i'd a never believed yah icon_lol.gif

 

wow you did great teaching yourself the roses

 

and all the right placement and the sparkles and butterflies hovering hovering

 

well done, cake buddy!

 

very well done are you kidding

 

for a first cake wow

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lei23 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 4:47pm
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Yayyy you did it! It looks great. I love your flowers!

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 5:13pm
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wow you did amazing!!!

 

that's a stunning display and a beeautiful cake omg

 

and for a first wedding cake--get outa here  You are making me blush.  I loved the way it turned out until I saw these photos and then I could step back enough to see how to improve it.  We are always so critical of our work, aren't we?  I am with my sewing, too.  I can see one stitch that is out of place, and I want to take the whole row apart. 

 

that dang camera did like x-ray vision that's the choco tier huh

 

it picked up the difference in the icing coverage from the choco cake to the filling  You are right!  Chocolate/with oreo filling.

 

the whole table is so elegant, loving and bridal--motorcycle and all!!!  The motorcycle was purchased by my daughter and her now husband,  Their first date was a motorcycle ride.

 

so everything went good/great?  Once the cake was finished, traveled safely in the car and then put on the table, I breathed a sigh of relief! And I brought about a gallon of extra icing with me just in case.  But never needed it!  The pictures taken at the wedding show a very tired mother of the bride, however. icon_biggrin.gif

 

how did you feel did you get enough rest? (no ;)  NO, NO , NO.  I am still so overly tired.  Just now cleaning the kitchen sugar-mess!

 

is it all a blur?  YES!  A big tired blur.  LOL

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 5:19pm
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Part of the little dark things are the body of little butterflies I think.  You can see one on the close up pic.  There are more, a couple on the bottom tier.  Yes, I spent too much time looking closely at it also.

Well, I do feel better knowing it was the camera!  Yeah!  thanks for all the compliments.  Like I said, I am in awe for those of you that do this all the time.  I had NO idea how much effort it would take.  Baking cakes?  How hard could it be?  Well, I sure know otherwise, now. And of course with my panicky requests for HELP here, you KNOW it was not an easy ordeal for me.   I bow down to each and everyone of you that do this all the time.  It is truly an artistic gift that you all have.

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lvtig1 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 6:23pm
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I wanted to reiterate that the WASC recipe was the best choice, I believe, and thank you for encouraging me to continue with it.  After the overflowing mess, I was afraid to go forward with so many layers left to bake.  I made each layer twice, so 6 recipes (only have one pan of each size) and following advice on here, I cooked only one layer at a time and carefully watched it.  No more fiasco after the first one!  The taste of the WASC was wonderful, especially using the "chocolate fudge" Betty Crocker one.  With the oreos mixed into the buttercream, it was beyond yummy!  Any newbies reading this thread, I agree that the WASC recipe is the one to use!  Yummy, easy to handle (even with having to flip over larger cakes!)

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-K8memphis Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by -K8memphis View Post

wow you did amazing!!!

 

that's a stunning display and a beeautiful cake omg

 

The pictures taken at the wedding show a very tired mother of the bride, however. icon_biggrin.gif

 

how did you feel did you get enough rest? (no ;) NO, NO , NO. I am still so overly tired. Just now cleaning the kitchen sugar-mess!

 

is it all a blur? YES! A big tired blur. LOL

 

 

i bet you were beat!
 
and the sugar mess--it waits patiently for you :) no hurry--will be there for you ;)
 
when my son got married i was terminally overwhelmed by his wedding and cake and all -- the kitchen was torpedoed i mean whoa it was bad--my dear little brother (those last four words never appeared in the same sentence before heheheheh ;) cleaned my kitchen--i'm still shocked--that was so sweet!
 
whooo hoooo-- and my husband often kept up with dishes when i was still doing cakes in the last years--not the first 30--can't promise they were clean exactly but they got watered and put away somewhere at least icon_lol.gif
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ivys5652 Posted 20 Mar 2013 , 8:24pm
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Beautiful What a gift of love! My Daughter included pictures and candles of her brothers and Grandparents of both the groom and hers. People had never heard of that but I see it more all the time.

 

I think you did an awesome job and wedding cakes will be in your future for sure!
 

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lvtig1 Posted 21 Mar 2013 , 1:54am
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Can I post pictures of the veil with the bride and the groom?  (side view)  The rules say no actual people in the picture.  Will I get in big trouble?

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-K8memphis Posted 21 Mar 2013 , 2:38am
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i get confused about that--i'm not sure

 

but i've got a picture of me in my avatar

 

and i just don't know

 

hey--you could send it to me in a pm ;)

 

you just hit the 'insert image' button first

 

it's right next to the right & left arrows

 

hey what are the arrows for?

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-K8memphis Posted 21 Mar 2013 , 2:39am
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oh they are undo & redo arrows--cool!

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denetteb Posted 21 Mar 2013 , 3:10am
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I think you should post the picture, it was directly related to the content of the thread.  And I really want to see what teeny little sewing project kept you from baking cakes and making icing for a trial run.  K8, you are a blond?  For some reason I was picturing you with dark hair.  Funny how that is.

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