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post #1 of 30
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Hello
I am as of now a hobby baker hoping to one day own my own bakery. I have two small kids and am debating going to school or not. Now ovbiously it would be best, but I wanted to start maybe before I went as weird hrs outside of my home right now arnt much of an option. How many of you went to school and how many didn't? I was told it will be way harderTo start out without schooling. Opinions please !
post #2 of 30

let me guess--did the school tell you that by any chance???

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post #3 of 30
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Haha no but I'm sure they would! My mother haha.
post #4 of 30

well she's right in that you need college, business school, trade school something after high school

 

but for a bakery business, culinary school is optional--

 

to do cakes in particular--unless you have the big giant bucks and/or want to make a car payment for the next 25 years--you don't really need culinary school for the cake making part of it

 

the industry has been made very easy to learn for those who want to work hard--you tube, books, dvds, and here on cc--we share lots and lots of information

 

culinary school would be great at a nominally priced community college for culinary basics--pastry courses are geared toward restaurant pastry chefs/chefing

 

and 'open a bakery' is a very broad statement--tons of different directions to go

 

so yes you need school but for the business end of a cake business, culinary school is basically for restaurant pastry chef and you come out of school able to make the same wage available before you went in

 

it's a heartbreaker industry

 

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it looks like fun on tv but for every episode of Duff there was way over a hundred hours of work

 

so you really gotta love it ;)

 

and sure school would be a blast but you don't necessarily get the bang for the buck

 

dang it i keep trying to end an a good note

 

so you really gotta love it ;)

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post #5 of 30

I think there's always value in taking a business course, even if you don't end up opening your own business you will at least be qualified to manage someone else's. You'll also find it much easier to get loans etc for your business if you've got some relevant schooling behind you. 

 

I'm probably going to take a pastry course at my local community college but mainly for the non-baking part of the course, things like inventory management etc. 

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post #6 of 30
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I was thinking pastry chef for the business aspect. As well as a fall back if I need it too. I'm not sure. So confusing! Its two years here but I learn everything! I want to docake decorating and such. I'm just not sure where I stand! Haha
post #7 of 30
A degree in culinary school will help you become a pastry chef, but the job description for a pastry chef usually doesn't involve much (if any) cake decorating, it is more of a generalist for different types of pastries at higher end restaurants and hotels.

If you want to focus only on cake decorating, most culinary school programs will be a waste of time. Look at the curriculum for the programs you're interested and see how much will be relevant for what you want to do.
post #8 of 30

A bakery job would give you some experience and a business class would be of benefit. But culinary school is not a necessity. Many fine pastry chefs, restaurateurs, and business owners do not have culinary degrees.Think about what you need to learn and research nearby schools that offer adult ed classes.   

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post #9 of 30
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Thank you everyone. Its something that will take some research. I have done some. They do focus on a semester of wedding cakes and another on fine arts or something.
post #10 of 30
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[IMG]this is first year http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/2923574/width/200/height/400[/IMG]
This is second. Do you think this two years would benefit as a cake decorator?
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What does the syllabus look like for the Pastry Fundamentals and Art & Design classes? How much is tuition?
post #13 of 30
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For pastry fundametals this is he description
Learn how ingredients, mixing methods and decorating techniques worktogether to produce a variety of icings, cakes, and pies found in contemporarybakeries and kitchens.
Pastry Fundamentals IIA continuing exploration of pastry production including choux paste, individualpastries and a variety of tarts and pies with a focus on decorating, garnishingand presentation.
And art and design Apply the principles of colour, theme, and composition to the design andcreation of pastry arts products that reflect current trends.
post #14 of 30
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Tuition would be about 11, 000
post #15 of 30
To me it sounds like the part of the class relevant to cake decorating is probably equivalent to what you can learn for free from online videos. The most useful part of the curriculum is probably the business courses, but you should be able to find similar classes at a much lower price point from a community college.
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