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How do I achieve this gold?

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Can anyone tell me if this gold was painted on buttercream? It looks like I can see brush strokes but I'm not sure. Would this be possible with a smbc or would I have to use a crusting buttercream?

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My guess would be airbrushed gold rather than painting it on there. I don't have an airbrush so I use canned edible gold spray (PME or Chefmaster). It took several cans to get this cake as gold as it is and I only did it on fondant so I'm not sure how much different it is on buttercream. For the 3rd tier, I did several coats. I noticed that if you do the coats when it's wet, there tends to be streaks so spray, let it dry completely, then spray again. I hope that helps!
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Thank you, thank you Jennifer for answering!! I was beginning to feel like the last one picked for dodgeball. Ha. My questions(2) never seem to get replies. I like your cake, beautiful! That's the gold color I need to achieve but on buttercream. I've seen pictures of it done...just don't know what it takes to do it. I'll look into the products you suggested. Thanks again.

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the cake in the picture looks like it might be covered in edible gold leaf. would probably be a very expensive way to do I though
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Unfortunately you are never going to get a good coverage of any metallic color on Buttercream.It just isn't possible.I have tried painting and airbrush and it doesn't work at all...the gold becomes very muted and so does the silver...never found a good way to paint buttercreamm..wish I knew..HTH

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post #6 of 35

for what it's worth--i was checking out duff's spray metalics at the store just now--it's made with mica

 

and it did not say non toxic or anything like that that i found on the label

 

i'm not saying it doesn't specify i'm saying i didn't find it on there

 

so that's out for edible (for me anyway)

 

i think ashleabrown's got it right--gold leaf would do it but yeah on the right smart pricey side

 

but mostly i think we need to dial down the expectations one client at a time

 

i think we have all gotten far afield of edible on our work huh

 

i mean i love the real metallics but it ain't food/ain't safe either

 

but i mean we could get around it by doing that cake as dummy cake

 

and make sure all the metallic pieces on other tiers get discarded

 

but that kinda gets old quick too--who wants to police the party

 

it's a difficult question-- where i think one should come down on the side of food safety

 

but it's an individual decision to make

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post #7 of 35
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So true! I've been all over this site and anywhere else I can think of to find the 'edible' answer. Sigh. These gold cakes keep popping up. I think my bride found what she wants on Pintrest. I really don't want to start experimenting with gold on buttercream until I have a clear idea of whether it's safe and can even be done. I get the feeling that the whole idea will end up being completely out of her price range anyway.

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that's why i never tackled the answer--

 

i haven't kept up with the 'crystal colors' out now too that are edible but i think they are just luster dusts but i haven't tried them yet

 

but yeah it's kind of a 'new' wave of thinking kinda sorta

 

not that we all haven't been safety conscious we have for the most part but

 

we're kinda pulling back and away from the previous years of cake deco

 

where we collectively maybe were getting a little out of control with trying to get it too real/blingy/flashy

 

even way back when--i wanted to put the crystals/rhinestones on the cakes with the lace point pieces but naw--just one rhinestone lost or eaten would be a very bad day

 

it would undoubtedly be some little kid with a big dramatic mouth 'oh i'm dying oh my stomach'

 

and his mom would find the thing next day in the washer where it fell out of his pocket

 

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and i looked up your labrador post and since it was about 6 months ago--you probably got your answer by now--sorry!!

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post #9 of 35

I'd love to know the answer to this too.  Fortunately what I want to paint gold is just a plaque on the outside that I can remove so I'm going to use highlighter dust which is NOT edible.  However, if going straight on the outside of the cake, especially buttercream, it would need to be edible and DEFINITELY non-toxic.  I've been hearing that AmeriColor's gold airbrush color works really well and there are cakes showing up on Pinterest that are definitely buttercream (with rustic wavy non-smooth sides) that are very gold looking.  I don't think gold leaf could be used for those so I'd assume airbrush.  Would like to confirm that Americolor is food-safe though.  I asked Jennifer Dontz about this recently and she said it doesn't indicate one way or the other on the bottle, oddly enough.

post #10 of 35

I am pretty sure it is gold leaf, which was applied and smoothed with a brush, hence the brush stroke markings.  As someone else said, the metallics just don't look the same when painted on   It could be airbrushed, but I really think gold leaf would be the only way to end up with the true metallic shine that you see in that pic. 

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post #11 of 35

non-edible highlighter would do that in a nanosecond

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post #12 of 35
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So, I just might give up on the gold buttercream thing and tell my bride that I'm just not comfortable feeding that to her guests. Hopefully she will go for the fondant idea which can be peeled off. In the words of Pooh Bear..."Oh bother".

 

K8memphis...that's awesome you checked on my old  lab question. Now I'm kinda embarassed for whining. I got the cake done. I used to do faux finishes, plasters and murals ( in a previous life). A decorator I worked with would walk me through rooms and tell me what finish she wanted and where. Once I made the mistake of explaining the process to her. She cut me off and said 'I don't care how you get there. Just get there.' So that's how I did my Labrador cake. Just dove in and winged it. He's in my gallery.

 

btw- used to live in Memphis...Bartlett.

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wow--you did not need any help with that lab!!

 

i love your style--you do 'action' cakes--like the flames on the basketball --

 

bubba's in trouble--love that kinda cake--and wow are you good

 

it's gotta be the tennessee thing icon_lol.gif jk jk ;)

 

hooray for memphis!!! yay bartlett!!

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post #14 of 35

So to follow-up, I have contacted Americolor directly to ask for confirmation that their gold airbrush color is EDIBLE (not just non-toxic).  I'll let everyone know when/if they respond.  However, I was able to find an ingredients list for it.  The only listed item that seemed questionable was mica-based pearlescent pigments, but looking on the FDA site it appears that these mica pigments are approved for confections as long as they make up 1.5% or less of the food.  

 

Looking at old forum threads about whether these products are foodsafe, I've seen people throw around the argument that even if FDA-approved, mica is not safe for consumption because workers who mine mica from the earth wear masks to prevent inhalation.  I'm not saying I always trust FDA approvals, but from what I've read these mica-based pigments are coated with another substance and are not in the raw form that miners encounter.  Thus, that argument against the safety of mica pigments is not really valid.  Here is the page from FDA.gov indicating mica pigements are approved for use in confections: http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ColorAdditives/ColorAdditiveInventories/ucm115641.htm  If others interpret this differently than I have expressed above, I'd love to discuss it to get to the bottom of this.  

 

HTH!

 

-X

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And I want to throw in there that the miners are being protected from inhalation, not consumption of mica. I'm not saying it is the same toxicity level, but I will say that we regularly drink water, but we need to protect ourselves from inhaling it icon_wink.gif
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