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post #1 of 17
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Hi,

I am a home baker,I just received an order for a 6" cake & 48 cupcakes for a 1 yr olds birthday party (circus theme). I'm only charging her $68 and I'm making gumpaste figures & toppers. After we discussed everything she then asked me to let her know when she could come for a cake tasting. I am not sure how to respond to her on this. The order is only $68 I won't make very much of a profit. I will be spending days on making the toppers. I don't want to spend the little bit of a profit that I will make on making her different combinations of cakes & fillings. Should I just tell her that I can't do the cake? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!

post #2 of 17
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Hi,

I am a home baker,I just received an order for a 6" cake & 48 cupcakes for a 1 yr olds birthday party (circus theme). I'm only charging her $68 and I'm making gumpaste figures & toppers. After we discussed everything she then asked me to let her know when she could come for a cake tasting. I am not sure how to respond to her on this. The order is only $68 I won't make very much of a profit. I will be spending days on making the toppers. I don't want to spend the little bit of a profit that I will make on making her different combinations of cakes & fillings. Should I just tell her that I can't do the cake? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!

 

Dear (customer),

 

I regret to inform you that I do not offer tastings for orders under $xxx.00.  Should you wish to sample a variety of our product you may purchase a variety pack of xx cupcakes at $xx.00.  Do you still wish to proceed with this order?

 

Rather than rejecting the order outright, you put the ball in her court as to whether she will proceed with the order. 

 

Just out of curiosity, How much are you charging for the cake, and how much for each cupcake?  How on earth can you be making anything when you are charging grade school bake sale prices?

deborahanne

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http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

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deborahanne

http://grandmasugarskitchen.blogspot.com/
http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

Life begins at 325° F, and, yes, that IS powdered sugar in my hair.

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Birthday Cakes
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post #3 of 17
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Yes I know I am charging way too little. I charged her $20 for the cake & $1 a cupcake. Even then, people keep complaining that my prices are too high. I was just making cakes for friends then some of their friends have started getting ahold of me. I know I need to set prices & stick to them. Just haven't figured out what to charge yet. I like the idea of sending her that message & I think that's what I will do. Thank you!
post #4 of 17

Where are you located? I can't begin to imagine where $1 per cupcake is too  much- or $20 per cake. Surely supermarkets charge more than that?

 

I like what 'cakeyouverymuch' said in how to respond.

 

I think there will always be people in the world who will say whatever price is too much for them- in any field- no matter how low the price truly is..that's the way the world goes around....but that also means those people are not your customers so you should focus your energy, talent, and marketing towards a different type of customer. 

 

I think if you continue to make cakes/goodies for below cost (because I don't think you factored in labor, 'overhead' etc in your $68 price)  you will get burned out every easily. JMO.

post #5 of 17
Wow $68 I would have started a base price of $150 for a basic butter cake with b/c frosting and that wouldn't include the price of the toppers.
I like the sound of the letter aswell
post #6 of 17
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Cakefat- I live in a small town in Ohio. I have only recently even started charging for cakes. I was making them free for friends, then they started to take advantage so I started charging them the cost of ingredients & now they are taking advantage of that so I am now charging a tiny bit for my time.

My daughter posted some of my cakes on facebook & people are starting to get in touch with me that way. Everytime, I give a price they say oh your daughter said your prices were reasonable so nevermind or oh that's just too much. So then I try to lower them & then, like you said, get burnt out. I still love doing them but its not as enjoyable when I know I am making nothing.
post #7 of 17
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Bumblebeez- I so wish I could get even close to what you charge icon_sad.gif maybe I should just charge what I would like to and if they don't want the cake then oh well
post #8 of 17

I only offer tastings for orders of 200+ servings. Lately I have been cutting my cake tops into small squares and freezing them. So far so good , I don't have to put a ton of time and materials into my tastings.

If someone with a small order demands a tasting, to keep the business, I do 3 flavors for $30.00. I 1/4 my recipes and make mini cupcakes,  again , freeze the left overs for the next tasting.

So there is an option, if someone is only willing to pay $20 for a cake, they probably won't want to fork over $30 for a tasting and it's a non-issue.

 

I am in an area similar to yours. It's VERY difficult to get people to pay for cake. I can't count the number of times I hear " it's just a cake!!" , and " I can get one at Walmart for $20.00".  Walk away, I'd rather lose the order and have the free time to spend with my family than work night and day for no money.

post #9 of 17
I would just say 'I'm a hobby baker, charging hobby prices. If you want a professional bakery experience, you're welcome to go find one'.
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post #10 of 17

and depending which way you go with this

 

be aware that you might want to say to yourself, 'hey i would not/could not pay that for cake'

 

yeah that's why you took the time & effort to learn to diy

 

and then the next one to try & avoid is, 'that's too much money nobody would pay that'

 

hey if someone is wanting to celebrate with food for 50 guests it's gonna cost 'em

 

today's prices are today's prices

 

are gas prices outrageous

 

are food prices outrageous

 

is a tailored suit more than one off the rack

 

just some thoughts for you

 

the cake gods have blessed ohioans!!! run w/that ball

 

or rather price softly wisely and carry a big cake

 

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post #11 of 17

Every caker should have this hung on the kitchen door.


The Caker's Credo


A cake is NOT just flour and water.

 

If you mix flour and water you get GLUE.

 

The miracle of cake is that you take the glue,
add eggs and sugar, and you get cake.

 

Where did the glue go you ask?

 

You know very well where it went.

 

It's what makes the cake stick to your hips.

 

One should pay at least as much for the cake
as one is going to pay for the gym membership
that will help remove it from one's hips.

deborahanne

http://grandmasugarskitchen.blogspot.com/
http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

Life begins at 325° F, and, yes, that IS powdered sugar in my hair.

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Birthday Cakes
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Christmas
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deborahanne

http://grandmasugarskitchen.blogspot.com/
http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

Life begins at 325° F, and, yes, that IS powdered sugar in my hair.

Baby Shower
(6 photos)
Birthday Cakes
(6 photos)
Christmas
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post #12 of 17

Furthermore:

 

Its not just cake.

 

Its the making of a memory.

 

Its the centerpiece of an occasion joyous or sad.

 

"Remember the birthday party when I turned ten and the cake that mama bought.  Dark chocolate, it was soooo good.."

 

"Remember the cake we had for Nana's 80th birthday.  She was so happy she almost cried."

 

"Remember the cake we had when Ed retired. . . looked like a tackle box.  He sure loved fishing, he did."

 

Remember and remember and remember. . . It's NEVER just cake!

deborahanne

http://grandmasugarskitchen.blogspot.com/
http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

Life begins at 325° F, and, yes, that IS powdered sugar in my hair.

Baby Shower
(6 photos)
Birthday Cakes
(6 photos)
Christmas
(6 photos)
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deborahanne

http://grandmasugarskitchen.blogspot.com/
http://fromlinetocolor.blogspot.ca/

Life begins at 325° F, and, yes, that IS powdered sugar in my hair.

Baby Shower
(6 photos)
Birthday Cakes
(6 photos)
Christmas
(6 photos)
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post #13 of 17
I try to stay away from "I don't" or "I won't" or "I can't"

We all run into this. My response is: I offer complimentary consultations, including samples, for orders exceeding $150. If there is a particular cake you would like to try, I offer a 6" two layer cake for $15.

www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

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www.VeryDeliciousDesserts.com

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Delicious-Desserts/207874222593145

 

It's never "just cake!"

 

You may get a cake for $way to little but you won't get this cake!

Animal
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post #14 of 17
If you want to make money selling cakes you will need a business plan and a marketing strategy. If you need help putting this together, contact your local SCORE chapter for free business advice relevant to your area.

If I were you I would try to back out of this order and stop accepting new orders until your business plan is ready. For reference, the market value of the order you described is probably 3 to 4 times what you are charging.
post #15 of 17
Also, if you're spending days making the toppers you're not making any profit at all, unless you usually work for free at any other jobs you have...
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