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post #16 of 30
I need to know about earlence cake guide that the serving are for two layer cakes? Im new in this business and I want to know if I do 6 layer cake or 8 layer cake thats 6" pan size, how will I know how many people does it serve.. ? Wilton chart shows layer and inches I could understand the lace points and difference between bride and groom cakes.. hello needed thanks.
post #17 of 30

The standard tier is always 4" tall in these charts.  If you do tiers that are 6" tall, then you need to create your own serving chart, but if each serving is bigger, you must charge accordingly to make a profit.  

 

8" tall tiers are two 4" tiers of the same size, stacked, so you can use the standard charts.

 

You will be losing money by using Earlene's charts.  The Wilton charts are the industry standard and provide plenty of cake.

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post #18 of 30
Oh...thank you so much, I ask people if cake is the only dessert at the party.. Cox I guess they need more cake if it's the only! I use Wilton as a guide .. never used earlence! Thanks once again for the help.
post #19 of 30

I have recently started using Wilton's wedding size servings for both wedding and party, I was using the two different charts before.  I tend to make my cakes about 5" tall, so they are a little more generous than the 4" tall Wilton model.

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post #20 of 30
See...this is why I need to stop being a lazy bird and just make my own serving chart. My tiers are closer to 5" than 4 and I use Earlenes chart, my pricing structure has always been based on that. Huh.
post #21 of 30
My chart is a little more generous than Wilton, but not as generous as Earlene's, it basically splits the difference. And it's wedding servings, I don't use party servings for anything. Tiers are about 5" tall, I've just never liked the sometimes squatty look of 4".
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post #22 of 30
I charge the same basic price per serving regardless if it is for a wedding or some other party. The more complex the design the more money I charge.

I get annoyed when someone charges different prices for the same work. Dry cleaners do it and it ticks me off. A ladies blouse cost more for cleaning than a man's shirt. Makes no sense to me.
post #23 of 30

Amen!

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post #24 of 30
Hi, I am not sure this will help, but at the bakery I work for , the reason they charge per serving for a wedding cake is because wedding cakes are tiered and require supports , therefore they are more involved, they also need separator plates and thicker drums, all adding to the cost, as opposed to a single birthday cake that is only using a thin gold cardboard and no supports or drums and usually a simple decoration, we also make wedding cakes higher than regular birthday cakes. And we never use serving sizes to price birthday cakes. Maybe this gives you another perspective, hope it helps icon_smile.gif
post #25 of 30
Well of course something that has more materials, more labor, more attention costs more. That's not anything anyone should be confused about. It's when that same tiered cake that's ordered for a birthday party, or some other celebration, is priced differently. And I don't know about you, but I do plenty of birthday cakes that cost a lot more than some of the wedding cakes I've made
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post #26 of 30
I make wedding cakes, but to me pricing per serving doesn't make any sense at all! Just because a cake is half the size, doesn't mean I have only half the work. I still have to take time to mix batter, bake, make fillings, level, torte, fill, crumb coat, color the icing, cover in fondant and wash up - no matter the size of the cake. Not to mention all the communication with client, shopping, planning etc.

I'm very interested to know your opinions on this, and how you account for that work when you price per serving. Thanks!
post #27 of 30
I have to be honest and say I never really grasped the concept of "price by serving" either. My pricing is something like materials+labor+profit with consideration to market price of course.

I have a serving chart but it's really for me to determine how much cake I need to make. Not a pricing tool.

****I am not saying that pricing by serving is WRONG. Just a disclaimer
post #28 of 30
We don't charge by serving, and if we did it would make the cakes seem a lot more expensive then they actually are.
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post #29 of 30

They can cut the dang thing in half for all I care and serve it to two people but my pricing was always based on the Wilton wedding serving chart.

 

Those who do not charge per serving really are .... they've just already done the math.  "This $100 cake serves 25." (which is $4/serving).  This $100 cake serves 50."  (Which is $2/serving).  Per-serving is just the total price broken down.  A price per serving gives the customer an idea of what they are going to spend.  ("A cake at $4/serving means for 100 people, I should plan to spend at least $400.")

 

Neither method is wrong.  I just preferred having the price-per-serving set so I didn't have to work up the cake price from scratch every single time.  Less work for me! :-)

 

But to answer the question in the title of this thread?  I never did charge two separate prices.  

 

I cannot imagine a conversation in which someone orders a 8" cake and is told "$90". Then client says,"Oh it's a party cake" so the baker says, "Oh, in that case the price is $60." icon_confused.gif

post #30 of 30

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