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post #61 of 164

This thread has become a wonderful example of how some people will learn to do better once they know better and how others will rationalize their choice to continue doing something that they've been told is not OK.....

 

I always feel a little sick when people (shrug) and say,  "it hasn't hurt me (so far)" --as though that makes it acceptable to foist DD on others.........maybe the "others" won't be as "lucky"....

 

Do whatever you want to yourself.  Accept the consequences of your choices for YOUR body, but never assume that what is OK for you is automatically OK for the next guy.

 

Want to sprinkle your confections with pretty plastic particles?  Fine--as long as you fully disclose it to each and every person eating your creations and accept the potential consequences to both that person and to your business.  Better make the clients sign a release, too, acknowledging that you've disclosed that the DD is plastic particles, just in case they wind up in the hospital with an ailment related to consuming the stuff....

 

It's "no big deal" until it becomes a big deal and sometimes, what you don't know CAN hurt you.  Once you've been put on notice--and responding to this thread proves that you've been put on notice--should someone have an adverse reaction to DD (that they hadn't been told about or didn't know what it was), they'd have no problem pursuing a legal remedy.....

 

Sparkly just ain't worth it....

 

Rae

I love you, but your emergency is not my crisis!

They say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.--Terry Pratchett (b.194
I love you, but your emergency is not my crisis!

They say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.--Terry Pratchett (b.194
post #62 of 164

Some feel the onus is on the baker to make sure absolutely everything on or near the cake is edible.  What about the toothpicks in figures?  Wire and florist tape on gumpaste flowers?

 

Some feel the onus is on the customer.  If a person uses their eyes, they can plainly see what is and is not meant to be eaten.  One should not just jam everything into one's mouth thinking it's okay because it's near a food source.

 

Perhaps both sides have a point.  DD should be on a decoration that can easily be taken off - fondant, gumpaste, etc.  I wouldn't want it all over my BC iced cake.  But declaring a ban on it seems as silly as banning candles - heck they MIGHT drop wax on the cake! Gasp!

 

Personal responsibility.  Especially if one is sick or has frequent illness or allergies.  All the more reason to be cautious of what you eat.  Err on the side of caution.  It is not the world's job to put a bubble around you.


Edited by Jess155 - 1/4/13 at 3:12pm

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

I homeschool because I've seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.

 

http://whynotethiopia2.blogspot.com/

 

 

post #63 of 164

Hi, K8--welcome back!

 

I bought my wax (Golden Blends 415) from ebay:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130491955139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

I think the 10 lbs. I bought will last 2 lifetimes.

 

per Golden Brands, the makers of 415,  the wax is 100% pure soy, natural, no additives, kosher and FDA approved.  It's also completely odorless.

 

 

I don't know what they use to "wax" cake boards, but I know that paraffin is no longer recommended for consumption, so that's why I went in search of a pure soy.

 

I put about 1/4 cup of wax in a small silicone kitchen portion cup and melt it to clear in the microwave.  This is a high melt point wax, so it take at least 1.5 mins., but it's also very hard to scorch.

 

I take a fresh paper towel and wipe on a thin coat while the wax is very hot.  It's thin enough so that you get little up if you scratch it with your fingernail, but it does seal the surface.

 

HTH

Rae

I love you, but your emergency is not my crisis!

They say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.--Terry Pratchett (b.194
I love you, but your emergency is not my crisis!

They say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.--Terry Pratchett (b.194
post #64 of 164

Thank you so much!

 

brilliant work really tremendous

 

how many zillion times while assembling a cake have I wondered where that cardboard circle and foamcore board have been--anybody sneeze on therm, drop 'em on the floor, wipe their nose out in the cold unloading the inventory then touch it

 

thanks for making my world brighter

 

you get a gold star!!!

 

 

 

 

 

ps. original post is on page 1 or 2


Edited by -K8memphis - 1/4/13 at 4:17pm
read the ingredient label

 

read the ingredient label

 

post #65 of 164

Stick a fork in it I think this topic is done.

The bottom line is to CHECK WITH YOUR LOCAL FOOD AUTHORITY BEFORE you sell your products.

New bakers need to be aware of the health regulations pertaining to them in their region or state and country. Not all laws regarding food, food additives or business practices are the same across the board so please make sure you check with your food authority or health department BEFORE you start selling your products. No one wants to be sued for an illness real or imagined. No one wants to be a test case.

Use of wires penetrating into the cake is also a contentious issue. In Australia there has been at least one case where a child was hospitalised for consuming cake with a small piece of wire in it - the caterers cut the cake without removing the flower arrangement first and a small piece of wire ended up in the cake! In this case it is not what the wire is made from or the miniscule risk of contamination from what the wire is made from that is the issue, it is simply the fact that eating a lovely piece of cake with a piece of wire in it would put a kink in your day, especially if you ended it in in emergency surgery. Not quite the end that one would envision for a wedding day!

In Australia we don't have a contamination issue with salmonella as Europe and the US have, therefore use of egg whites aren't as big a problem health wise here, and according to the health authorities once the egg white is dry salmonella cannot form and grow. Italian meringues and other such egg based fillings, beacuse they stay moist, would need to be refrigerated.

In Australia non toxic is defined as

  • The NON TOXIC GLITTER = NON-TOXIC - not harmful  
  • If consumed, then the product will cause no harm and will simply pass through the digestive system. 
  • This product cannot be classed as edible, as edible means the product is digestible and classed as a food, As this product does not break down when eaten, it is therefore labelled as “Non-Toxic” If concerned, Non toxic glitters can be used on decorations that can be removed prior to eating
     

This from the Australian Food Authority

"If the glitter and powder colours are being sold in Australia as food for human consumption then the product must meet the labelling requirements set out in Part 1.2 – Labelling and other Information Requirements of the Australian New Zealand Food Standards Code.

If the product is a decorative feature in contact with food but is not intended to be consumed then the product must meet the standards set out in Standard 1.4.3 – Articles and Materials in Contact with Food of the Food Standards Code.

 

From the Uk food standards site

http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/faq/edibleglitter/#.UOeB6KzLJrw

I am aware also, that in some US states, the use of ribbon is prohibited as it is not a food item. So make sure what the laws are in your state/region/country.

 

Instead of flogging dd to death how about offering alternatives if you want to be able to say that everything on the cake is technically edible.

Rainbow Dust have a large range of edible glitters, dusts and lusters available.
Carolines Sugar art Supplies also produce a range of edible colours. dusts and glitters.
Wilton also have edible glitter although it's really naiff, but what ever floats your boat.

CK also have a range of glitters and dusts
Squires have a range
 

I have come here today to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum!
I have come here today to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum!
post #66 of 164
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Originally Posted by Jess155 View Post

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I'm not one to cover a cake in disco dust, I've never used it for anything but gumpaste decorations.  Having said that --

I think any person who takes a big bite of disco dust deserves the rainbow poo that will follow.  Most people don't eat the fondant or gumpaste anyway let alone when it's covered in sparkles.  Just like (most) people are responsible enough to take off the plastic flotsam that grocery stores throw on their cakes, most people (should) know that if it looks like glitter, peel it off.  Don't just blindly eat whatever is on your plate.  I've eaten worse.  My kids have eaten worse.  The grocery store sells worse and labels it "edible". 


Couldnt have said it better myself!
post #67 of 164

I'm going to use my Disco Dust for make-up...it makes great face glitter!

post #68 of 164

Can we know who this famous person is? Because I worked at a bakery here in Dallas with someone who is a wee bit famous and all they use is disco dust!! ON EVERYTHING!! Since just recently I am no longer her employee..

post #69 of 164

I so agree!!

post #70 of 164
Oh no! I are some disco dust and now I am farting out sprinkles.
post #71 of 164

Ozgirl thank you for the very helpful alternatives! I know some would say do your own research, and I agree with that, but putting that little extra out there was awesome!icon_biggrin.gif

post #72 of 164

When my sister and I were little, we used to see who could swallow more BBs - - you know, the little copper/lead pellets from our brother's BB gun. Now, while others might disagree, I don't believe we suffered any ill effects from our little contests. That doesn't mean I would put BBs on a cake.

 

Common sense is a wonderful thing; too bad it's being litigated right out of our society. People don't want to accept responsibility for their own stupidity.  "I sat here and crunched on gumpaste flowers filled with wires and it's MY fault I have a stomach ache?  No way!"

 

When your customers want the flowers and feathers and sparkles, there's only so much you can do to make sure it's safe.  The rest is up to them.

post #73 of 164

you guys making it through the metal detectors ok????

 

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read the ingredient label

 

read the ingredient label

 

post #74 of 164

LOL K8!  That's funny!  We ate pennies when we were toddlers. . .ugh. Nothing dirtier than money.

post #75 of 164

Original post from Rae

 Quote:   

       "per Golden Brands, the makers of 415,  the wax is 100% pure soy, natural, no additives, kosher and FDA approved.  It's also completely odorless."

 

 

Rae,

Please note that "pure soy" is a highly dangerous additive to the growing population of people with soy allergies.  I have had a dear friend almost go into anaphelactic shock, and be rushed to the E.R., from eating a hard candy that unbeknownst to her had soy as an ingredient.  She also had to give up her job in a hair salon because of the fumes from the hair products that contain soy. She must carry an epi pen on her because soy ingredients are not always labeled on everything that touches food.  There is an increasing number  of people with an allergy to soy as it is being added to so many food and non-food products.  This allergy is life threatening to those who have it. 

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