Things Not To Ask/say To A Baker!

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jason_kraft Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 12:34am
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And I'm just thinking I wasted all this time on you for zip. And really wondering who is giving her this steal of a deal (we are by far NOT the most expensive in our area), although of course I won't ask. :(

There's nothing wrong with asking who they ended up booking with, the worst that can happen is simply not telling you. Knowing who you are losing customers to is very valuable information.

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kikiandkyle Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 12:47am
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Yesterday I got an email from a girl asking me what sort of payments I accept, she wants a gorgeous Minnie Mouse cake for her baby shower. I reply back , "cash, credit, check (with weeks prepayment to make sure it clears) and ask about serving amount and date.

An hour later I get a call from the girl asking don't I take EBT cards? And said sorry, I can't, I'm not qualified to take them since the government has qualifications to accept them that I don't meet.

So she asks me if she can give me her EBT card to go buy the supplies and get some extra groceries for myself, I can get twice the cost of the cake? o.0 uh, no! I was trying to be nice, so I told her that for serving count, the most basic cake would $300, and I don't have anywhere to store $600 worth of groceries, and isn't that illegal? Besides, I would want her kids to go hungry, if i took all her food stamps. She said don't worry about her, haha, she gets enough. So then I had to tell I I just couldn't do it.

Good to know our tax dollars are benefiting someone...

So you forwarded her email to your state welfare agency's fraud dept right? That's the only way they get  caught. 

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vgcea Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 5:49am
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I have on numerous occasions had people give me a time for pick up, only to discover the day of that that was the party start time, and they would like to show up several hours early. First of all, i schedule a pick up time because i have other things going on, and second i always do finishing details the day of, so no, you cannot pick up your cake three hours early, while i'm still in my bathrobe. 

Something similar happened to me recently. The delivery time I was given was about 30 mins before cake cutting so yes, I had to deliver the cake in the middle of the party.  Not cool. Cake delivery time and cake grand entrance time are NOT the same thing.

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bonniekaye Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 2:47pm
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I had a bride come in with her mother. I had just made her bridal shower cake. It was in a St Patrick's theme, with green and shamrocks. I thought the cake was great and I know it was very well made. I asked her what was the matter (she looked up-set) and she told me that her "friends" made fun of her cake. They said it looked "fake" because it looked so perfect. It was covered in fondant and the top edges were razor sharp. I told her that they had probably never seen a cake made by a professional, and her cake was perfect. She was worried people would not believe her wedding cake was real and asked if I could make it not look so perfect. In my mind I was thinking "sure, I'll make your wedding cake look like an armature made it and ruin my reputation!" I did assure her that her cake would be fine. I've never had a complaint about a cake looking or tasting bad, but this is the first time someone said my cake looked too perfect!

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ellavanilla Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:01pm
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So you forwarded her email to your state welfare agency's fraud dept right? That's the only way they get  caught. 

 

 

I don't think that's fraud. In fact, "bakery items" are specifically designated in the guidelines as eligible food products. 

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DeliciousDesserts Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:05pm
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There's nothing wrong with asking who they ended up booking with, the worst that can happen is simply not telling you. Knowing who you are losing customers to is very valuable information.

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jason_kraft Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:06pm
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I don't think that's fraud. In fact, "bakery items" are specifically designated in the guidelines as eligible food products. 

The customer tried to sell the food stamps in order to purchase a non-eligible item, that was the fraudulent part.

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scrumdiddlycakes Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:07pm
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I don't think that's fraud. In fact, "bakery items" are specifically designated in the guidelines as eligible food products. 


Using it to pay someone with $600 of 'extra groceries' is fraud.

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-K8memphis Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:19pm
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and lots of peeps have to give their cards to others because they can't shop for themselves--as long as the owner of the card is willing to give the pin to another that's ok according to my dealings with ebt transactions

 

and it was a phone call -- not an email so no trail of evidence

 

and i really liked what jason said about not letting it bait anyone

 

class envy is so old and ugly and stupid

 

sure there's scammers everywhere in every socio-economic level--they all suck -- nothing new

 

i'm glad my tax dollars go to help peeps who need it

 

whether they recently lost their jobs, drive a fancy car 'cause it's paid for and live high up on the hill or whether they were born into a revolving door of poverty

 

peeps on ebt have birthdays and like to have parties to celebrate things--peeps on ebt are peeps too--

 

i like that (ebt) much better than them begging on the sidewalk in front of my house

 

oh man, memphis doesn't really get below freezing a lot but it's gets cold and there's this one lady who 'lives' in the covered driveway at the shopping center 1/2 mile from here--how does she do that--why is she there--she's all bundled up but she's gotta be fricken freezing--we drop her off stuff sometimes and there's usually other 'packages' there for her--ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch

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hbquikcomjamesl Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:44pm
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Hmm. I'm reminded of a letter I once read in (if I remember right) the Heifer quarterly donor magazine, complaining about an article in which a once-destitute recipient of a livestock gift was now doing well enough to afford brand new dishes.

 

I fired off a reply (I think it actually got published in the next issue) that the true measure of charity is not the number of people dependent on one's gifts, but the number of people who achieve independence because of them.

 

And the same is true of food stamps (and no, you don't use food stamps to mail a watermelon!)

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mskerrih Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 8:41pm
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AWhen I caked from home, there were times when I would let someone buy supplies for their cake with their food stamps, but they were reasonable cakes and I felt bad or them. I didn't charge them except for their supplies. Now what irritates me is when people come in my shop and set up a whole $400-$500 order and then tell me they want to set up something with stamps. Oh no ma'am!!! That's to feed those 5 kids you have climbing all over my store and chewing my tablecloth. I used to get food stamps before I started caking. I was a single mother of 2. I never in my life would have taken food out of my kids' mouths for something that frivolous. They got Walmart cakes back then! And as for fraud, in Louisiana you don't have to show any real proof that you need assistance. You can apply online and have $800 worth of stamps sent on a card in four days. The fraud level is very high, it's just under reported.

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kikiandkyle Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 9:42pm
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Nothing wrong with getting food stamps if you need them, but there'd be a lot more help to go around when we need it most if people didnt always turn a blind eye to fraud.

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SystemMod1 Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 10:23pm
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Members, move on from the topic of food stamps and financial assistance, please.  It's off topic and I'd hate to have to start deleting comments to keep this thread from going into the weeds.

 

Thanks!

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kikiandkyle Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 11:29pm
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Sorry! 

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hbquikcomjamesl Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 11:59pm
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Members, move on from the topic of food stamps and financial assistance, please.  It's off topic and I'd hate to have to start deleting comments to keep this thread from going into the weeds.

Hear, hear. I think "mskerrih" pretty much summed up about all that could reasonably link food stamps to the topic.

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Bzc8lda Posted 29 Mar 2013 , 6:08pm
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People like to suggest but when is they turn to pay, then they complain and want to have our art cheap, even better for them, if we give it for free.

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Annabakescakes Posted 29 Mar 2013 , 6:32pm
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Hmm. I'm reminded of a letter I once read in (if I remember right) the Heifer quarterly donor magazine, complaining about an article in which a once-destitute recipient of a livestock gift was now doing well enough to afford brand new dishes.

 

I fired off a reply (I think it actually got published in the next issue) that the true measure of charity is not the number of people dependent on one's gifts, but the number of people who achieve independence because of them.

 

That is beautifully said.

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hbquikcomjamesl Posted 29 Mar 2013 , 7:32pm
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Thank you, but let's get back on-topic before the moderator starts deleting posts.icon_biggrin.gif

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Cakemommy2012 Posted 30 Mar 2013 , 12:28am
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Ok I got one for you all!  Today I was hurrying around making all my cakes for the weekend (I work in a retail store and then do cakes at home for family and friends) When this guy came up to me and was like "Hey, I want this cake but with red icing"  Me ASSUMING he is placing an order grab my order form and ask him what day would he like it.....his reply?  "um, now."  After I bite my lip really hard I explain that he would need to ORDER that and I cannot just whip up a 1/2 sheet Marble cake with RED icing and it be ready NOW---He got so mad and preceded to tell me he didn't see why he needed to order one its not like he wanted something fancy!  I SOOOOO wanted to tell him "sure let me just wiggle my magical nose and make your specific NON FANCY red iced cake appear from your butt!! "

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YummyCreations Posted 30 Mar 2013 , 5:52pm
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Last year my son's Little League Coach was having a birthday party and the whole team was invited. I offered his wife to make cupcakes to celebrate the occasion for free since he was the most caring coach my son had even had. She was happy to accept the offer and I confirmed with her the number of cupcakes to make for everyone at the party. I made the cupcakes in the picture. The day of the party everyone was really impressed with the cupcakes and kept saying they couldn't wait to eat them. When time for dessert arrived the coach's wife pulled out this giant, grocery store cupcake cake layered with bright pink frosting and began cutting and serving that first instead of the cupcakes I brought! I could tell guests were confused and kept looking at the cupcakes they wanted instead! I still don't understand why she did that!!! icon_confused.gif

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carmenscake_helsinki Posted 30 Mar 2013 , 6:27pm
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Last year my son's Little League Coach was having a birthday party and the whole team was invited. I offered his wife to make cupcakes to celebrate the occasion for free since he was the most caring coach my son had even had. She was happy to accept the offer and I confirmed with her the number of cupcakes to make for everyone at the party. I made the cupcakes in the picture. The day of the party everyone was really impressed with the cupcakes and kept saying they couldn't wait to eat them. When time for dessert arrived the coach's wife pulled out this giant, grocery store cupcake cake layered with bright pink frosting and began cutting and serving that first instead of the cupcakes I brought! I could tell guests were confused and kept looking at the cupcakes they wanted instead! I still don't understand why she did that!!! icon_confused.gif

Maybe she wanted to keep them and eat them all alone, ehehehehe

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kikiandkyle Posted 30 Mar 2013 , 9:39pm
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Maybe she was saving them for a later party and was going to pass them off as her own, wouldn't surprise me!

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JPepper Posted 31 Mar 2013 , 5:23pm
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Last year my son's Little League Coach was having a birthday party and the whole team was invited. I offered his wife to make cupcakes to celebrate the occasion for free since he was the most caring coach my son had even had. She was happy to accept the offer and I confirmed with her the number of cupcakes to make for everyone at the party. I made the cupcakes in the picture. The day of the party everyone was really impressed with the cupcakes and kept saying they couldn't wait to eat them. When time for dessert arrived the coach's wife pulled out this giant, grocery store cupcake cake layered with bright pink frosting and began cutting and serving that first instead of the cupcakes I brought! I could tell guests were confused and kept looking at the cupcakes they wanted instead! I still don't understand why she did that!!! icon_confused.gif

 

 

Firstly, I cannot believe how RUDE some people are. I know that a lot of people don't realize the time and effort that goes into baking but that was just down right rude to do when she knew you were bringing cupcakes! I would have politely said to her that I wouldn't have gone to all the trouble to make CUSTOM cupcakes if I had known she was planning on buying a cake. And then I would ask anyone if they would ALSO like one of my cupcakes before I PACK them up (to take home or give away to someone who would actually appreciate them!).

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costumeczar Posted 31 Mar 2013 , 7:12pm
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Yeah, either offer them to people to take home, or just go on up there and grab a couple for yourself to start the trend. What drives me nuts is when you take a cake somewhere, and everyone circles it saying how nice it is and they "can't cut it!" Well, I can, and I usually just go up and start cutting it up when it's time to serve it if nobody else wants to.

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kristinhintz88 Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 12:23pm
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I've learned not to get too excited when I'm first discussing a design.  I just draw out a simple, quick sketch and see where it goes from there.  Once I have a deposit, I'll draw a nice sketch for approval on all the details.  It keeps me from getting disappointed when doing this as a hobby!

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cazza1 Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 12:44pm
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The comment that has always stuck in my mind was from a workmate who exclaimed, "Oh my God, how can you cut it.  It must be like sticking a knife in the baby".  My youngest was 1 year old at the time.

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carmijok Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 5:22pm
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Last year my son's Little League Coach was having a birthday party and the whole team was invited. I offered his wife to make cupcakes to celebrate the occasion for free since he was the most caring coach my son had even had. She was happy to accept the offer and I confirmed with her the number of cupcakes to make for everyone at the party. I made the cupcakes in the picture. The day of the party everyone was really impressed with the cupcakes and kept saying they couldn't wait to eat them. When time for dessert arrived the coach's wife pulled out this giant, grocery store cupcake cake layered with bright pink frosting and began cutting and serving that first instead of the cupcakes I brought! I could tell guests were confused and kept looking at the cupcakes they wanted instead! I still don't understand why she did that!!! icon_confused.gif

 

 

So why didn't you ask?  I would have!  'Hey...I brought these to be eaten...do you need some help passing them out?"

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hbquikcomjamesl Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 5:54pm
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do you need some help passing them out?"

I might be inclined to add, in full view and earshot of all the guests, ". . . or would you rather I took them elsewhere? Perhaps someplace where they might actually be enjoyed?"

 

This incident reminds me of what happened with my parents' 55th anniversary cake: because circumstances (not the kind of circumstances that are for public discussion) prevented our neighbors from joining us for cake that evening, I cut around the edible "Speed Limit 55" sign, so that if they joined us the following evening, they'd at least see the sign. Two days passed; we weren't able to arrange for the neighbors to join us, and since the cake was served in-pan, and like a dodo, I didn't use the one 9x13 I have with a snap-on lid, the aluminum foil cover over the pan started touching (and ripping away parts of) the edible image. And still, everybody was cutting around it. I think much of that cake went uneaten. Note to self: always use the pan with the snap-on cover when using edible printing.

 

Thankfully, my first exercise in the use of edible printing (the Leland Awards cake) had gone much better: everybody was amazed by it, and everybody (except the one fellow docent who ate the dairy-free cupcake I'd made to accommodate her allergy) actually ate it.

 

BTW: for cakes served in-pan, and stored with aluminum foil on top, does anybody know of a trick for keeping the foil off the frosting? If so, PM me; let's keep the thread from veering any further off-topic.

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kikiandkyle Posted 3 Apr 2013 , 4:50pm
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When I served the cake in my photo here nobody wanted to eat the face, I had to cut from the back and work my way around until just his face was left, then the next day I found my son scraping the cake out from behind the fondant, still leaving the face fully intact! 

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indranieves36 Posted 3 Apr 2013 , 5:44pm
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HEY I NEED A CAKE FOR 30 PEOPLE.. WHEN I CAN COME OVER FOR A TASTE TEST?? REALLY?? SWEETHEART I DON'T OWN A BAKERY IT WILL BE A LOST FOR ME BAKE CAKES FOR U TO TASTE.. NEVER RESPOND BACK THEN I POST IN MY PAGE SOMETHING I FOUND ON THE INTERNET SINCE I'M NEW AT THIS IS SOMETHING I TOLD HER ALSO I'M NEW AT THIS I CAN'T DO TASTE TEST..

Wedding cakes require a tasting and consultation which party cakes usually do not. DONE!! LOL!!

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