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post #346 of 412
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Originally Posted by kblickster View Post
 

Brilliant statement.  I love making cakes.  I love that people enjoy my cakes.  I do not love having to tell someone that wants a 300.00 cake for 50.00 that they can't afford my cakes.  It's a fact though and I have to face it.

 

Most cakers start out in this business as a craft.  (A expensive craft)  Before long they think that they can make some money for their time and expense, but they don't have the business skills required to assess what the true value of their product is or if they do, the balls to sell their cakes for what they are worth.  It doesn't take long before most recognize that they are not going to make a living.

 

I am crafty by nature and love other craft mediums.  I crochet lovely afghans.  Unfortunately, it takes many hours to create one and people are not likely to buy a custom blanket from me when they can purchase a lovely one from TJ Maxx for less than I spend on the yarn for one of mine.  I only make them now for family and gifts.

 

The custom cake world is exactly the same thing.  The cost of supplies, ingredients and labor makes a custom cake cost prohibitive for the average consumer to afford on a regular basis.

 

If you find yourself unable to charge what you need to earn a decent living or your market will not pay what you need, then you should consider only making your product for pleasure.  Reserve your time and talent for family, friends or gifts.  Making cakes for no profit hurts the professional baker that has no other source of income.

Thanks! You made so excellent points yourself!

post #347 of 412

I agree!  I only bake for family and a few friends.

post #348 of 412
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Originally Posted by kblickster View Post
 

... consider only making your product for pleasure.  Reserve your time and talent for family, friends or gifts...

 

yes, i agree with howsweet, brilliant statement--that's the way to go imo too

one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
post #349 of 412

I do not sell cakes just make them for family and friends.  It's a hobby and I have never really counted the cost.  Recently a friend asked me to make a cake for her to announce that she was expecting.  She offered to pay, and I said I'll make it at cost.  I was startled by how much I actually spent making that cake, and she made the raspberry filling.  Just my costs were $25.00 for a full 5 inch high, 9 inch cake plus about a dozen cupcakes.  Now she didn't blink an eye at the price, but I did.  

post #350 of 412
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I do not sell cakes just make them for family and friends.  It's a hobby and I have never really counted the cost.  Recently a friend asked me to make a cake for her to announce that she was expecting.  She offered to pay, and I said I'll make it at cost.  I was startled by how much I actually spent making that cake, and she made the raspberry filling.  Just my costs were $25.00 for a full 5 inch high, 9 inch cake plus about a dozen cupcakes.  Now she didn't blink an eye at the price, but I did.  

 

 

do you mean your out of pocket costs? because there's all those items like hot water, paper towels ingredients you used from the cupboard etc.

 

adds up quick huh

one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
post #351 of 412

I still consider myself somewhat a newbie but I need to know if I am charging to much for my cakes. I recently had a friend of mine ask for a 3tier cake with a t topper and and  army colored theme. I quoted her about $78.00 did I charge to much/

post #352 of 412
Way too much, I'd say. I'm being way sarcastic..

Before you start selling cakes you really need to get a grip on your pricing structure. Only you can do your own homework and cost out your own products - we can't possibly do that for you.
post #353 of 412
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yes, i agree with howsweet, brilliant statement--that's the way to go imo too

Thank you! :D

 

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 paper towels

I spend about $60 a month just on paper towels

post #354 of 412
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Thank you! :D

 

I spend about $60 a month just on paper towels

 

 

i don't do cakes anymore but i am a paper-towel-a-holic 

 

entire forests cry them selves to sleep at night because of me .. and you...

 

:-D

one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
one baker's 'never ever do' is the next baker's 'i swear by this'
post #355 of 412
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i don't do cakes anymore but i am a paper-towel-a-holic 

entire forests cry them selves to sleep at night because of me .. and you...

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Don't worry, I balance you both out because I am a paper towel a-phobe, must be because my mom just refused to buy them when I was a kid.
elsewhere.
elsewhere.
post #356 of 412

Hello. This is my first evening on Cake Central, and I am not sure how to get around it yet. I don't think I am on the right page for the question I want to ask, but I'm going to ask it anyway. :-)  However, before I do, I want to comment on what I've read here. I am in agreement with the posts: It is very expensive and time consuming to make a cake before any profit can even be considered, and potential clients should to respect that.

Here is my question: How do you politely and tactfully refuse to give away your recipes, in particular to friends and coworkers, (I also  have a part-time job outside of my home.) who ask for them instead of placing an order for the item ? I don't want to be rude, but I don't want to give away the tools of my trade either. That won't pay the bills. I'm just starting out as a Home-Baker and don't want/can't afford to give away my capacity to earn an income.

Thanks so much for any advice!!!!!

paigetx 

post #357 of 412
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".....I'm just starting out as a Home-Baker and don't want/can't afford to give away my capacity to earn an income.

Thanks so much for any advice!!!!!

paigetx

Welcome paigetx: as a home-baker also, here is a situation that got to me.  I had a friend ask about making cheesecake.   I finally said bring all the ingredients and a notebook.  I'll train you to make it, you can take notes, ask questions, and you'll have it forever....................

 

Only in my dreams I'm afraid.  The next time she needed a cheesecake She said she couldn't read her notes, they made no sense at all, and when she tried to make it - total failure.

 

After that I told people who asked for recipes that they could get them off the internet, buy the books, watch the dvds, and practice for 40 years like I have so they'd learn for themselves.

 

Except for Cake Central.  I will openly share the miniscule knowledge that I have gained, as others here are honest and forthright in their information and share generously.  Can't help you with the business side, just the baking at home fun stuff.

Cheers

MB

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post #358 of 412
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Hello. This is my first evening on Cake Central, and I am not sure how to get around it yet. I don't think I am on the right page for the question I want to ask, but I'm going to ask it anyway. :-)  However, before I do, I want to comment on what I've read here. I am in agreement with the posts: It is very expensive and time consuming to make a cake before any profit can even be considered, and potential clients should to respect that.

Here is my question: How do you politely and tactfully refuse to give away your recipes, in particular to friends and coworkers, (I also  have a part-time job outside of my home.) who ask for them instead of placing an order for the item ? I don't want to be rude, but I don't want to give away the tools of my trade either. That won't pay the bills. I'm just starting out as a Home-Baker and don't want/can't afford to give away my capacity to earn an income.

Thanks so much for any advice!!!!!

paigetx 

I would tell them nicely what you just said above - explain, regretfully, that these are your tools of trade that enable you to make a living and you cannot give them away.

If they don't get it then it's their problem - not yours. Good luck.

It's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.
It's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.
post #359 of 412
I tell people that I don't share recipes because that's a trade secret. That doesn't mean I won't give them out to anybody, but I get to decide who gets them.
post #360 of 412
If this is going to be a real business, then you'll have to toughen up a bit. You've made a good first step by realizing you won't be giving your secrets away. There's no magic thing to say in this situation that isn't going put off some people.
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