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I don't think the overall tone of that thread is different, aside from the comments of one user who is not participating in this thread. And therein lies the difference.

Did that thread get deleted? I can't find it now. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it did! icon_confused.gif

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Unfortunately it appears to be gone.
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Yes, it did get deleted. You did a good job of warning the offending poster, but to no avail.

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That's so interesting.  A friend of mine is a photographer, disses the "mall places"  and her sitting fee for 20 mins is $150.  She told me that $150 was too much for a Dr. Seuss Cake to feed 50 people!!!    I was SO angry.  How can one artist not understand another in terms of pricing?  I did politely say okay to her though, and to have her consider me some other time.  I know I cannot afford her photos, so I don't even ask.  I have a budget that says "mall photography place," and that's where I go.  I'm realistic about talent and creativity too.

My reply would have been that some people would say that $150 for 20 mins with a photographer is too much too, but luckily for both of you there are people out there who appreciate quality.
elsewhere.
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Unfortunately it appears to be gone.

I'm glad is gone
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Unfortunately it appears to be gone.

I'm glad is gone

No, it had really good information in it. It got spoiled by a few things, but the information was good.

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My reply would have been that some people would say that $150 for 20 mins with a photographer is too much too, but luckily for both of you there are people out there who appreciate quality.

thumbs_up.gif  Keeping that in my arsenal of responses!!! I wish I could have thought of that when I emailed her.  

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Spent days making fondant hocky pieces, you know school jersey, pucks, sticks, blades etc, 3 D graduation cap as well in school colors. Then baked a cake for 125 people, cake looked awesome, I dropped it off to the party place, co-worker was no where to be found her husband was though, his reply nice cake thanks. LoL. Monday co-worker comes to work pokes her head into my office says, great cake, thanks um we didn't use it we had ice cream cake instead! I thought how strange, and for the record the cost of this cake ZERO dollars because it appears my co-worker thought I had plenty of time on my hands, and I love her son as much as she does. ( I don't know him) so I shouldn't need to be paid. Although we had agreed on a very reasonable price. Never again lesson learned the hard way. icon_wink.gif.

WOW! I was unaware that if I didn't eat/use something I didn't have to pay for it. I think I'll try that next time I don't eat my whole meal from some fast-food joint. I'll just tell them I'll pay for what I eat... Yea, that will go over really well.

 

Sorry that happened to you.

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I do have a question for the bakers who are in business for themselves...  What is your stand on "hobby" bakers selling their work and are not undercutting your prices or down-right screwing you by selling cakes for half of what you would sell them?  My goal is to eventually sell cakes, this is a long-term goal. Chances are I will be baking out of my house, before I sell anything I will have a license and all that is required, but to me, I would still be a "hobby baker" because my main source of income will not be from cakes.  What I am really looking for is answers because when/if this dream comes true, I do not want to upset the local bakers in my area.  While this is a long-term dream for me, I have done quite a bit of research with regards to local pricing, etc. But I really do not want to be "that baker" who bakes for less than what she is worth AND screws the local businesses. I want to have fun and have a small client base.

 

Opinions? Suggestions?

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As long as you are licensed and inspected and aware of not undercutting, and of placing a value on your work.

 

There is no cottage food law in my area, so I turn in every illegal baker I come across - and there are many! I don't go out trolling for illegals, but if I do stumble across them I shoot off an e-mail to my contact at the health department.

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I do have a question for the bakers who are in business for themselves...  What is your stand on "hobby" bakers selling their work and are not undercutting your prices or down-right screwing you by selling cakes for half of what you would sell them?  My goal is to eventually sell cakes, this is a long-term goal. Chances are I will be baking out of my house, before I sell anything I will have a license and all that is required, but to me, I would still be a "hobby baker" because my main source of income will not be from cakes.  What I am really looking for is answers because when/if this dream comes true, I do not want to upset the local bakers in my area.  While this is a long-term dream for me, I have done quite a bit of research with regards to local pricing, etc. But I really do not want to be "that baker" who bakes for less than what she is worth AND screws the local businesses. I want to have fun and have a small client base.

 

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I think you're confusing the hobby vs. business issue a little. If you're licensed and all that's required to be a business then you're a business if you're selling cakes. If you do it part-time or full-time, it's still a business, you're not a hobby baker. There's another thread where we're "discussing" undercutting vs. underpricing, which would be when you're pricing too low because you don't know any better. If you know what cakes are going for in your area and you're deliberately charging less for some reason then you're undercutting, and that will piss people off. If you want to structure a business as a part-time thing with a small client base that's perfectly fine, but it doesn't mean that you need to charge less than what you would if you were doing it full-time. You should start looking at it as a part-time job, not a hobby, and it will make more sense to charge what you should be charging.

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Thank you.  I guess I consider myself a hobby baker because it's not full time and it's not meant to pay my bills. I would never under-cut the bakers who are in the business to make money. I value my time too much to under-price and I value other's talent and time too much to under-cut. As of right now, I just bake for close friends and family, having them pay for the supplies but they know that I plan to eventually have a small business. I'm just trying to make sure I do as much research as I can so I am educated when I finally get to that point.

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Thank you.  I guess I consider myself a hobby baker because it's not full time and it's not meant to pay my bills. I would never under-cut the bakers who are in the business to make money. I value my time too much to under-price and I value other's talent and time too much to under-cut. As of right now, I just bake for close friends and family, having them pay for the supplies but they know that I plan to eventually have a small business. I'm just trying to make sure I do as much research as I can so I am educated when I finally get to that point.

Just start thinking of it as a part-time job and not a hobby. Lots of people work for extra money that isn't intended to pay bills, but just for extras. It doesn't mean that your work is worth less if it isn't meant to pay bills!

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If anything, a casual part-time cake business would need to charge more since there are less orders to allocate fixed overhead to (insurance, accounting costs, etc.).
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If anything, a casual part-time cake business would need to charge more since there are less orders to allocate fixed overhead to (insurance, accounting costs, etc.).

Not necessarily, if she's not looking at it as something to bring in a lot of income.

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