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post #16 of 46
does anyone know if there is such a thing as non dairy candy melts? Wilton candy melts are kosher but dairy, and I really need them sometimes to stick something heavy on my cakes.
Any suggestions? I tried Royal icing, but at times, I need something stronger.

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post #17 of 46
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Malishka, thanks for the 'buddy' tip!

I've used Merckens a couple times, but those candy melts are also dairy.

I found two pareve items that might work: Shufra's white baking bar, and Leiber's white decorating chips. I've never used them, so I can't speak from experience, but they're probably the closest thing you'll find to pareve candy melts. I assume you'd have to add coloring to the melted product if you wanted it to match something on your cake.

Hope that helps, and Shana Tov u'Metuka!
post #18 of 46
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Actually, I think the Shufra product does come in different colors.... see here: http://www.manhattanchocolates.com/products.cfm?categoryid=2400&ProductID=1350384&do=Detail
post #19 of 46
I found these...

http://www.happycow.net/blog/?p=720

I have used the one in the first link. They were good.

I am wondering if we melted it down and added some soy milk powder would it help to add a depth to the flavor like the real dairy white chocolate. If you are making ganache you need cream anyway. Soy creamers and soy milk are nothing like ehavey cream but I think adding some more fat and flavor with the powder might help.
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post #20 of 46
thank you, but Shufra doesn't look like it gets really hard. I could be wrong. The candy melts get really hard so I can use them in molds just like the shufra chocolate. However, I don't know if it would harden quickly or at all, if I use it as a glue.

when it comes to finding a heavy cream, it's hopeless.
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post #21 of 46
not at all hopeless...

http://www.veganstore.com/vegan-food-items/dairy-alternatives.html

There are 3 on this page mimic cream, provamel heavey cream and condensed canned cream


If you need whipped:
And the soyatoo whipped topping is FABULOUS!!!!! But wait till they have the cartons in that are pantry stable and can be whipped yourself-they have way more cream then the cans disspence.
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post #22 of 46
I asked at my local kosher cake deco store what there is comparable to wilton candy melts, and they said there is really nothing that can replace it. the shufra bars (and i think liebers too) come in a few colors, they don't taste very good and i don't think they dry as quickly/hard as candy melts. I have never tried attaching anything heavy to the side of a cake, so I don't really know what you can use.
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post #23 of 46
Oh my G-d. I think I just heard the angels sing. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

how about the provamil heavy soya cream. I have never ordered this on the internet. have you?
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post #24 of 46
I ordered those chips and the soyatoo last year. I have a cart full right now..LOL if I can convince my hubby that we need all this stuff right now! $$$ but most of it will last. I am over the moon about the canned condenced soy milk! I have never seen that before. And I can't wait to try the mimic cream.
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post #25 of 46
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Originally Posted by just_for_fun

I asked at my local kosher cake deco store what there is comparable to wilton candy melts, and they said there is really nothing that can replace it. the shufra bars (and i think liebers too) come in a few colors, they don't taste very good and i don't think they dry as quickly/hard as candy melts. I have never tried attaching anything heavy to the side of a cake, so I don't really know what you can use.



Thank you for asking them. Now I am thinking of using the parve white chocolate. I'll tell you how it goes.
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post #26 of 46
sadsmile, I see that you're really into pigs. Kosher ones I am sure. lol

I can't wait to try the condensed milk also. And with the rest of this stuff,
OH the possibilities!!! icon_smile.gif You have made me happy my friend.

I'll be putting condensed milk into cake batters, my icing, my fillings. I wonder how it will do if I use it insead of heavy cream for a ganache.

I'm getting too excited. Have to calm down before my boss notices.
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post #27 of 46
LOL I love pigs but eating them really does not agree with me. I love finding new things! It is exciting. Now if only we could figure out a vegan cheese cake that comes really close.
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post #28 of 46
well, my dad's wife makes a non dairy cheesecake. It is plain nasty. we swallow it so we don't insult her, but even my kids (not knowing it's not real) won't touch it.

Experiment, experiment that's what I do. Just finding products at my local supermarket is difficult, not to mention the 2 whinny kids I have that want to go home. Kosher markets are way to expensive and I always look at ways to cut $$$.
by the way, your cakes are beautiful. Especially the one that you made with a big bow on top. I also have all of Sharon's videos. I love her!!!

MiriamG, can we see your cake?
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Yep, I posted pics of the wedding cake and a cake I made for a friend's new baby, in my profile. Let me know if you can't view them.
post #30 of 46
That is exactly what I am talking about Malishka! YUCK! LOL

I wish I had Sharon's videos! One day I will, but I am just starting out and making cakes for my family and friends. It shows in your cakes that you have her DVDs! icon_eek.gif

Miriam I really like your textured yellow loopy bow topper!
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