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post #76 of 267
thank you so much for answering my question. it was driving me crazy. icon_biggrin.gif
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Grabbing my bowl of faux-'nache and running from the ganache police!!
link to Jello MMF recipe: http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-6934662-.html#6934662
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post #77 of 267
I have a general question about wire decorations, if You do the wire, in the coffee stirrer or any other means for that matter, how do you keep the wire from sagging. I always love the look of the stars or balls of fondant on the wires sticking out of the cake, but wondered how they got them to stand up without them just folding over.....Hope that makes sense.
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post #78 of 267
Thanks for the helpful hints on using wire. Now I don't have to keep wondering what kind of wire to get every time I go to the craft store.
Thanks again.
post #79 of 267
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Originally Posted by SassyCakes09

I have a general question about wire decorations, if You do the wire, in the coffee stirrer or any other means for that matter, how do you keep the wire from sagging. I always love the look of the stars or balls of fondant on the wires sticking out of the cake, but wondered how they got them to stand up without them just folding over.....Hope that makes sense.



You have to use a pretty strong wire. I use a 20 gauge.
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post #80 of 267
thanks for the info. =) am making my first cake using wire next week. excellent timing.
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post #81 of 267
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Originally Posted by sara91

You can purchase wire that is made for this purpose from Cake decorating stores.

Do not use craft wire or wire from hardware. They would not make that wire food safe.

There is some good information for Australians here on wires in cakes

http://www.cakesandmore.org/blog/2008/12/a-guide-to-wires-in-cakes/
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I don't trust whoever wrote this anyhow, viz:
"That it is being inserted into a low PH cake product. ie. Mudcake, Madeira, Buttercake but NOT FRUITCAKE (which is acidic and has higher moisture content) "

Yeah - uh - LOW pH actually means HIGH acidity! Duh! pH is a logarithmic scale indicating the concentration of free hydrogen ions (neutral being 7 on the scale)...my pet peeve is pseudoscientific BS masquerading as actual information.

I NEVER put wires directly into my cakes, always in picks or straws. No-one could convince me otherwise.

And I agree 100% about your comment on chemicals in the house. I love my Enjo products!

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post #82 of 267
Thanks for the info. I had heard about putting the wire in the straw but was wondering how the wire would stand up in the straw. Thanks icon_smile.gif
post #83 of 267
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For those of you who do not know what a florist/flower pick looks like - this is a link showing one type.
Never use the little cap that comes with this type tho - as it may come off when removing pick from cake.

If not using many wires - just fill the pick with some fondant/medium and the wires will stay in place perfectly once the fondant/medium has dried.

Another type is longer with a pointy end.

Cost in Australia is approx .30 - .50 cts each.

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post #84 of 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by sara91

You can purchase wire that is made for this purpose from Cake decorating stores.

Do not use craft wire or wire from hardware. They would not make that wire food safe.

There is some good information for Australians here on wires in cakes

http://www.cakesandmore.org/blog/2008/12/a-guide-to-wires-in-cakes/

For those of you worried about toxicity in your homes. Stop using all those products and open your windows. The average home is more toxic than an industrial workspace thanks to all our 'cleaning products'.



I have to think that the preservatives in food that we eat every day are more dangerous than a wire. LOL. I have a son with food sensitivities and chronic urticaria (he outgrew the food sensitivities but still has the urticaria) and I really got into reading labels...did you know that if you look up the ingredients to McD's fries you can't pronounce anything but the first ingredient, practically? (Sad that french fries have "ingredients" anyway!!!)

Anyway I'm not saying its ok to put wire in cakes haha....I'm just saying that we encounter chemicals and gross things everywhere we go....and daily in our food supply. (Yuck.) If not preservatives, then contaminants from the factories. I've gotten to where I don't freak out about it..yeah I wash my hands ALL the time and my counters stay clean and all that...but I don't freak out if a corner of florist foil touches my cake, and I don't freak out about the toys the kids play with, and etc.

The only thing that freaks me out is restaurant tables and shopping carts. haha. But still not enough to not go out to eat or go to Target. icon_smile.gif
post #85 of 267
I might be wrong, but in trying to think this process through, I would think that the only type of wire/flower pick that would be safe to put in a cake would be the type that is manufactured for that purpose (like Wilton). A florist pick isnt intended for placement in food, therefore, it could contain plastic and chemical material that could be just as deadly, or more, than the wires and flowers that we are trying to keep away from the cake.

If I wrong I hope someone post a reply, because the florest picks are a lot less money than the ones that Wilson sells.
post #86 of 267
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Originally Posted by glendaleAZ

I might be wrong, but in trying to think this process through, I would think that the only type of wire/flower pick that would be safe to put in a cake would be the type that is manufactured for that purpose (like Wilton). A florist pick isnt intended for placement in food, therefore, it could contain plastic and chemical material that could be just as deadly, or more, than the wires and flowers that we are trying to keep away from the cake.

If I wrong I hope someone post a reply, because the florest picks are a lot less money than the ones that Wilson sells.



I'd say you are correct - if its going into food its got to be food safe.

And I am not the sort of person to 'freak out' about cleanliness to the point of sterilising everything my kids come into contact with - as a LOT of immune conditions are now thought to have arisen from OVER-cleanliness, but the issue at hand here is what WE are putting in OUR products, and even if the only thing you are worried about is whether you're going to be sued, best practice would dictate that you do not knowingly put a NON-food-safe substance into the edible goods you are selling.

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post #87 of 267
I should note that in the past, I did put wires directly in my cake, but thanks to the many post on cc I was forced to rethink my process to best serve the people eating my cakes. For me, I just became to big of a risk to continue putting the wires directly into the cake with the fear that someday a person who has an unusually high sensitivity to lead could eat one of my cake and then get very sick or, God forbid, die.

I now use either a food safe flower pick or coffee straws with a little fondant stuffed down into the straw to keep the wire in place. But, Ive also used RI and candy clay if thats what Im working with at the time - this also helps the staw come out when you pull out the wire.
post #88 of 267
SPAGHETTI!!!
You can buy pasta called Bucatini which is a spaghetti with a hole down the middle. I use #6 but it comes smaller and larger. The #6 is perfect for a #22 gauge wire or thinner (the larger the wire number the smaller the size). I also use it to build my fondant roses on, it is very strong because of the size and completely edible in case someone bites it. thumbs_up.gif
post #89 of 267
Has anyone tried dipping the wires in chocolate and putting them into a cake after the chocolate is hard? Do you guys think this would work?
post #90 of 267
Oops, I just made a cake yesterday (just for family) and stuck the wire directly into the cake. Food safety didn't cross my mind. I'll know better next time.

But I just had a thought⦠how about wrapping the wire in Aluminum foil? The Aluminum foil is food safe and it would bend just like the wire.
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