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post #586 of 881
Thank you!
post #587 of 881
The gelatin mix I use is 4 tablespoons of gelatin to 12 tablespoons of water. If you start at the beginning of this thread, page 1 - the instructions are all there. If you need help with something specific, just ask and one of us will get with you and try to help!
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post #588 of 881
I received my veining sheet over the weekend and start to work on it yesterday.

Read the instructions that came with it and didn't have a soft brush so used a flat brush instead.

Did my first set of butterflies like the instructions said. I waited about 2 1/2 hrs and noticed that the edges were already curling, so figured they were ready. Took them off and placed them on wax paper until I can decorate them all at once. Saw that they didn't look right (too dark on some spots and very clear on other spots) they looked uneven.

So tried it again. Got up this morning they were all curling again so took them off but this time I think I did them too too thin because they all started to rip.

My first set I took off curled extremely too much this morning so I will not be able to use them nor my 2nd set. So am tried this again this morning and hopefully when I get from work tonight they will look right.

Can you put these in the frig to speed up the process the same way you use Jell-o?

Why can't you use Jell-o? They would taste better.

How thick do you have to put the gelatin on?

I'm making my butterflies red but the gelatin looks pink when spreading on the vein. Do I need a few layers to get the red color?

Any help on this is greatly appreciated it thank you.
post #589 of 881
Iris, that's a lot of questions you have!! Let's see if we can get a few of them answered anyway. You ask why can't you use Jell-O? Because it's full of sugar and that won't work. If you go back and read through this entire thread you'll see some of the issues people have had with it.

The curling is good. Often when I make butterflies they have curled up and popped off the veining sheet the next morning. When they are dry they have some flexibility, so you can pinch the center to give the wings dimension. Trim the edges to get the ragged edges off.

Two hours is not nearly long enough to leave it. You are better off letting it set overnight. Refrigerating won't help at all. You cannot speed up this process. You will figure out through trial and error how to make it "not to thin, not too thick." You do want to watch out for air bubbles in your painting -- there's nothing worse than a butterfly wing with a big hole in it! icon_confused.gif

When making red, add 1 drop of airbrush red color and if that's not dark enough add another. Airbrush color is very liquidy and works better in the gelatin solution. You can also LIGHTLY sprinkle some disco dust onto the wet wings to give them a little sparkle as they dry, then do up the edges with a thicker coat of disco dust when you're done.

Hope that helps!! It would help some if you could post pix of the problem wings so we can better get an idea of what's going on. Good luck! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #590 of 881
icon_redface.gif sorry for all the questions. It's that I did start to ready almost the entire thread before I started to become crossed eyed icon_wink.gif .

Here is a picture of the butterflies I did yesterday. The top row are the very 1st set and the bottom row was the 2nd set.

As you can see the top row...they really curled alot and am afraid to bend them. The bottom row, are extremly too thin and the marjority of them are ripped. Can't use them.

My 3rd try at these butterflies came out ok. Unfortunately didn't take a picture of my 3rd set. Am working on my 4th set to see how they turn out. Trying to see how many good ones I can get to place on my wedding cake for Sunday.

Unfortunately, don't have any air brush gel to add to the gelatin only had the Wilton color gels. I'm wonder can you use food coloring?

Thank you for your help on this bobwonderbuns.
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post #591 of 881
The curling is good, that's the gelatin drying and releasing itself from the sheets. You can pinch the center and trim the edges to give it a more defined look.

The coloring isn't strong enough in your solution which is why it's fading out when you paint it on. Try some Americolor, they work better.

Your painting is lopsided, as you can see from the darker butterflies -- go for thin strokes over the entire butterfly first then go back IF you need to. Don't try to put on a thick coat all at once. Layering works better.

Other than that it does take practice to get a feel for this but you're doing well! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #592 of 881
Thank you so much for your help. Brought some more gelatin to give it another try.
post #593 of 881
Be sure and post more pix!! I want to see how you're doing! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #594 of 881
will do, thanks.
post #595 of 881
ok, here is the last batch of butterflies I made.

The 2 on the upper right hand corner are from the 1st batch and I plan to use them once I trim the edges off. Wanted to see how easy it was to bend them that's why those look different.

In the middle of the picture are two from the 2nd batch (very light ones) I made that was too thin.

The rest are from the last batch and will be using these for my cake. Need to trip the edges. I am in the middle of baking my cake now so will decorate them by the end of the week. Hopefully my petal dust will arrive in time, if not will have to go to Michael's to see what they have. Thanks for your help.
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post #596 of 881
I know, they look pretty scary before they're done, don't they? icon_biggrin.gif Petal dust and lustre dust will only smudge and look terrible. You want to go with Disco Dust, which has a much larger particle. You can also use the heat of your finger to curl the wings as needed -- I would suggest looking at my gelatin poinsettia in my pix but you can't see the curl on those leaves as well in the picture. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post #597 of 881
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Originally Posted by bobwonderbuns

I know, they look pretty scary before they're done, don't they? icon_biggrin.gif Petal dust and lustre dust will only smudge and look terrible. You want to go with Disco Dust, which has a much larger particle. You can also use the heat of your finger to curl the wings as needed -- I would suggest looking at my gelatin poinsettia in my pix but you can't see the curl on those leaves as well in the picture. icon_rolleyes.gif



ok if pedal dust or luster dust is out of the question and don't think I will get my disco dust in time, I'm sure I can use edible markers right?

I did order disco dust but just can't remember what color. how about shimmer from Michaels?
post #598 of 881
You can try the shimmer stuff from Wilton but I'm not a fan of it. Edible markers work well, especially for the monarch butterflies.
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post #599 of 881
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Originally Posted by bobwonderbuns

You can try the shimmer stuff from Wilton but I'm not a fan of it. Edible markers work well, especially for the monarch butterflies.

Don't think they will be eating the butterflies anyway, so if worse comes to worse will try the gel colors from Wilton.

Is it normal for the butterflies to break when you try to bend them?
post #600 of 881
They break if they're too thick. You have to go gently with them. I'm assuming you are talking about pinching the centers and not curling the wings, is that right?
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