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100% humidity-now my gumpaste flowers have softened. HELP!!

post #1 of 24
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After rain for 48 hours and 100% humidity, I walked past the gumpaste flowers for the wedding in seven days and saw part of a gerbera daisy lying on the table. The daisies had all softened up, some of the layers had separated, a couple had actually broken and they were all starting to droop the wrong way. They had all been completed for over a week. My full roses were starting to soften up as well.

After I stopped screaming icon_mad.gif, I hung them all upside down on the drying rack and cranked the a/c down. 15 hours later and they are still soft. Is there anything I can do? I would hate to have to start over and would probably have to take at least one more day off work to bake ... not to mention that my carpal tunnel has been screaming at me and these might be the last gumpaste flowers I am ever able to make. icon_cry.gif

I think that I have read in here somewhere that you can put them in a cold oven with the light on and they will harden up. That might be if they have never gotten to that point to begin with. The fact that they were completely hard and then got soft again really has me worried. I made them with the Wilton gumpaste powder. I have roses and dogwood from my daughter's wedding three years ago (made with the Wilton powder gp) that have had no special treatment and are still fine.

I'm off to get eggs and buttermilk so that I can get the chocolate cakes done this morning. Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated.


Thank you SO much!

Martha
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post #2 of 24
Awww! So sorry this has happened to you! I've had the same problem with gumpaste - not just Wilton's - and I've switched to using fondant & tylose. It's heartbreaking! I had pieces that were cured for 6 months melt into a sticky mess. icon_sad.gif

The best thing you can do is keep them under air conditioning and maybe aim a fan on them. The gumpaste has absorbed the moisture from the air. Or I've read that some people have had luck with food dehydrators. The oven didn't work for me. Silica gel will also help remove humidity - you know those little packets that come in some shoes and vitamins that say Do not eat? Perhaps you could put the daisies in an airtight container with a few of those packets? I haven't tried that yet.
post #3 of 24
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Thanks, beachcakes. I started out using fondant and tylose, but I think I probably put too much tylose in and it started getting dry. I added more fondant, but then didn't want to take a chance so I started over with new gumpaste. The earlier fondant and tylose are definitely harder than the gumpaste ones are, so I guess I should have stuck with that method.

I'll put a fan on them and see what happens. Hopefully I won't be looking for a florist in Austin who has Circus Roses and white gerbera daisies on Saturday afternoon! icon_cry.gif
Martha

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post #4 of 24
Do you have either a food or room dehydrator. For the room dehydrator i would try placing the gp right on top, If you have a food one i would try a couple in it to see if you can dry them out that way. If you are able to get them dried out again, i would then put them in plastic tubs with the silca gels. I know walmarts sells something over by the laundry/cleaning supplies, it starts out blue then turns pink when it has soaked up as much moisture as it can (don't know the name of it, but i think its designed to use in closets)
post #5 of 24
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Thanks, Peg. I do not have a dehydrater, but I will go to WalMart and look for the product you are talking about ... after my cakes come out of the oven. I've got about an hour or so left.

I've never thought about needing those little silica gel packets, so I always threw them away. I might not in the future!

I have the flowers closed up in an air conditioned room. I can feel that they are hardening up some. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Thanks.
Martha
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post #6 of 24
Martha, I'm in Houston and we had the same terrible weather. Yesterday we lost power for 9 hours and had the front and back doors open for cross-flow air all day, so it was 100% humidity in my house too. However, none of my gumpaste flowers softened or had any problems at all. What gumpaste are you using? The only time I have had the problem you described is when I used fondant with Tylose.

The suggestions to put the flowers in a dehydrator or oven with a pilot light are good suggestions, but we need to figure out why your gumpaste softened in the first place so this doesn't happen to you again.

(((Hugs)))
~ Sherri
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post #7 of 24
I'm sorry ~ I was totally oblivious to your 2nd post. DOH!

Hope it all works out for ya. icon_smile.gif
~ Sherri
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post #8 of 24
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Hi Sherri,

The problem gumpaste was the Wilton powder which is all I have ever used before this year. I have never had a problem and they were fine until yesterday. I had colored my roses and then painted the secondary color afterward and no problem ... naturally had a few break when they got a little bump. They were perfectly fine until late yesterday afternoon when they suddenly went soft. I'm about ready to give up and tell people they have to use fresh flowers. icon_cry.gif
Martha

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post #9 of 24
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I'll try the cold oven with the light on after I get through baking ...

Martha
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post #10 of 24
Oh dear. I sure wish we were closer so we could get together and re-make those flowers. Wanna come to Houston? icon_biggrin.gif

Please, please, for future gumpaste work, make Nicholas Lodge's gumpaste and keep it in your fridge. For all of my flowers, bows, decorative cake board, or anything that requires hardening, I use a 50/50 blend of Nick's gumpaste and Wilton fondant (stock up on those 5 lb boxes when Michael's has 50% off coupons!). That blend does not soften back up and it's a dream to work with. You can roll it out just a thinly as 100% gumpaste, and it's great for our area.

If you click the "email me" button and send me your email address, I will send you the recipe as a Word document. I altered it to include the weight of the ingredients in grams as well as change the wording of the instructions a bit to make them easier to understand.

Sorry that doesn't help you now but it will in the future. icon_smile.gif
~ Sherri
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post #11 of 24
Last year I made flowers to participate in a wedding cake contest, but the climate was terrible, was raining almost all day, and the flowers got very soft. I put them in the oven with the light on for several days, until they got dry. Also you can use a lamp with a 100w bulb on close the flores, they will get dry.

The gumpaste recipe I used is

2 1/2 cups of poudered sugar, measured first and the shifted
1 egg white
2 tsp of CMC (carboximethilcellulosa)
1 tbs of shortening

mix 2 cups of sugar with cmc, mix the egg white and add the sugar mix then add shortening and work until is white and elastic. And then add the rest of sugar. Keep in a plastic bag and let resto for 24 hours. You can make very thin petals. This paste has to be worked with the table cover with shortening, not to use cornstarch because it gets to dry and breaks. Before you start working with the paste you have to soft it with your hands until is elastic.
post #12 of 24
I'm just curious ~ why would you continue to use a paste that you know gets soft when exposed to humidity, when there are recipes available for gumpaste that does not soften?

I lost a great deal of my gumpaste work last fall when we were without power for 11 days after Hurricane Ike. The problem ONLY occurred to the flowers and things that were made with fondant + Tylose. Nothing made of straight gumpaste or 50/50 was affected at all.

That taught me a very valuable lesson! icon_smile.gif
~ Sherri
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post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Cakepro

I'm just curious ~ why would you continue to use a paste that you know gets soft when exposed to humidity, when there are recipes available for gumpaste that does not soften?



Is this question for me??? I haven't ever had gumpaste get soft. I have flowers from 3 years ago that are still perfect. I had used the Wilton powder gumpaste, which is what I used this time. As a matter of fact ... if I can save the ones for next weekend ... I will be using one of the 3 year old dogwoods in the arrangement (sentimental reasons).

I didn't know if the Wilton was going to work, so I made up a batch of Nick Lodge's gumpaste (MUCH easier than I had expected and it is what I will use in the future) and let it sit while I worked with the Wilton. I had already done my rose cones and daisy centers. The Wilton gumpaste worked extremely well, it didn't have to sit another 24 hours and it was already colored so I used it.

If I can't get these flowers to work, I will have to use fresh. I work full time and work on cakes at night and on weekends. Since the wedding is a week from today - no weekends left. icon_sad.gif

Martha
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post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Cakepro

Oh dear. I sure wish we were closer so we could get together and re-make those flowers. Wanna come to Houston? icon_biggrin.gif



I SO wish I had time to take you up on your offer. I have taken one class from Nick Lodge, but I would love some one on one instruction and your work is gorgeous.

I have Nick's recipe from his website, but I'll e-mail you and thank you very much for sending me your file. icon_smile.gif

Martha
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post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by mbt4955

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Originally Posted by Cakepro

I'm just curious ~ why would you continue to use a paste that you know gets soft when exposed to humidity, when there are recipes available for gumpaste that does not soften?



Is this question for me???



LOL, no!!! It was for the other person who said her flowers softened and then provided the recipe and instructions on how to make it! LOL

Wow, if your GP has never softened up on you before, it must be some kind of fluke with the paste or something.

You can use Nick's GP just a few hours after making it, if you need to (I have, and even asked him about it during one of his classes).

I sure hope those flowers harden back up for you. Sorry you're dealing with this stress.
~ Sherri
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