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post #16 of 40
Honestly, If I'm going to pay $4 for a simple cupcake, it had better be the best tasting cupcake I have ever had. I too, go from bakery to bakery, sampling what they have to offer. The best cupcake I ever had was $1.75. I don't assume that the more expensive product is going to taste better. You hope so, but most of the time I'm really disappointed. And then I'm mad that I wasted my money.

I like the idea of dressing up your stand with table cloths and flowers. Also, I agree that there will be waste that you need to consider. I would make mini cupcakes for people to sample. If they are truly delicious, people will pay whatever price tag you put on them. I honestly think that you'll have much more in sales, if you do the samples, than if you don't. Just factor the samples into your cost. There will probably be a lot of other vendors selling baked goods. I think the display and samples can really set you apart, regardless of price. Also, be sure to have your business cards, your labels with your phone #, etc. Every person is a potential customer for cakes down the road, even if they don't buy something from you that day. Be positive, smile, and look like your having fun! People will gravite towards you. Good luck!
post #17 of 40
Okay..I am gonna step in and give my 2 cents worth icon_wink.gif I live in a large Canadian city...over 1 million people.There is 1 major cupcake place here that just opened up their second location.They charge $2.95 per cupcake $36.00 per dozen and many times they are out before 1pm and they don't rebake!! They are lined up always...and for why..I'm not sure because I have had their cupcakes and they are not that good. thumbsdown.gif Same old dry cake and sweet gritty icing just swirled ontop.They package them up in these expensive brown boxes with satin ribbon so that is probably where your money is going to is to pay for the expensive packaging!!Now having said that....the marketing idea is working!! Yes...the economy is playing a huge role in what people are spending their money on but I don't see coffee places like Tim Horton's or Starbucks parking lots empty...rather busier than ever.People want a treat that is affordable like coffee and a cupcake.They will pay a bit more for a good..and bad product for that matter..they just don't know the difference between a Great cupcake like we bake icon_wink.gificon_wink.gif .You have to stay within the pricing ranges of your area though and I understand that...economics will determine that but don't assume that you have to be cheap to get business.I wouldn't charge less than $2.00 a cupcake anywhere because it takes alot of time to do cupcakes even with just a swirl ontop!I can't see anyone making a cupcake for less JMO icon_biggrin.gif As for overhead....customers don't need to know if you have overhead..Go to the Farmers Market and set out your goods and be confident that what you bake is the best in town...and price it at that!! If people don't buy then you can adjust for the week after but don't give your goods away! I was at a bake sale at Christmas and ladies who had different tables were selling pastries/turnovers for 6/$8.00 and cupcakes for $2.50 each and breads for $3-4 a loaf etc...the tables were empty!! And me..I just wanted a home made cinnamon bun and I paid $8.00 for 6 and they were dam good!! thumbs_up.gif Good luck at the market!!

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post #18 of 40
I agree that you definitely have to look at what people in your area are willing to pay (within reason). I live in a small town that has only grocery store bakeries so I have try to be somewhat reasonable. Having said that, I will also not give my product away for free or with hardly any profit. If I did that then I would have to ask myself "Why am I doig this?" I am amazed your cupcakes only cost you .13. Do you bake from scratch or use a mix? I bake from scratch and even my basic vanilla with vanilla buttercream cupcakes cost at least .30 each. Did you inlcude packaging, the baking cup, etc? If so I would love to know how you get them down to that price. Mine are $1.50 for basic vanilla or chocolate with vanilla buttercream and 1.75-2.00 for filled . I know there are still people who will say that they won't even pay that much, but they are usually the ones who want something for nothing or will just bake their own. I understand about being frugal, but if you want something that is extra special then you will have to pay for it. Remember "you get what you pay for". Good Luck!
post #19 of 40
cakeandbakehelper888....

I see that you are new here...However being snide and making assumptions that the Original poster, or any other person in this community or otherwise, who bakes and decorates cakes for money is basically robbing people by what they charge is an extremely Rude asssumption to make. Maybe you should think about what you are typing beforehand.....and Yah...If you could get $30.00 a dozen for cupcakes then I would say Good for You!! ...Not.. "Why don't you just mug someone!!!" I mean really icon_rolleyes.gif

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post #20 of 40
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Originally Posted by Kiddiekakes

cakeandbakehelper888....

I see that you are new here...However being snide and making assumptions that the Original poster, or any other person in this community or otherwise, who bakes and decorates cakes for money is basically robbing people by what they charge is an extremely Rude asssumption to make. Maybe you should think about what you are typing beforehand.....and Yah...If you could get $30.00 a dozen for cupcakes then I would say Good for You!! ...Not.. "Why don't you just mug someone!!!" I mean really icon_rolleyes.gif



This lady is here to create problems....you can read this post to see it for yourself icon_lol.gif
http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-6308749.html#6308749

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post #21 of 40
lady?? Edna, you're too kind...........troll is much more appropriate icon_biggrin.gif
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lady?? Edna, you're too kind...........troll is much more appropriate icon_biggrin.gif



icon_lol.gif..you are too funny
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post #23 of 40
Yah yeah know..I usually keep out of these bashing threads but this one just Pissed me right off!! I mean who the HE$$ do these people think they are!!

I'm gettin too old to put up with this from Trolls!!

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post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by Kiddiekakes

Yah yeah know..I usually keep out of these bashing threads but this one just Pissed me right off!! I mean who the HE$$ do these people think they are!!

I'm gettin too old to put up with this from Trolls!!




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post #25 of 40
Wow Edna, I just read that person's other post & I don't even know what to think. I wish real cake people would just stay on here & not people who don't take it serious. I may not agree with everybody on here, but I LOVE the fact that everyone's opinion is coming from actual expierence or if they don't know a lot, they are here to learn more. Everyone is here, cause they really care about their craft! This site (though this may seem pitiful on my part) actually means a lot to me. I have been in love with baking since I was a kid. I have been BLESSED with GREAT friends that are more like family. They are willing to listen to me talk cake baking & decorating stuff, but they are not interested in it. They can't really conversate back. Here is where I get to come & talk about my second favorite subject (my kids are my #1 subject of course) & everyone relates, everyone is just excited, & just everyone gets where I'm coming from & how I feel. I just think it's ridiculous for someone just to come on here to stir up trouble. And for those of you who haven't read the other thread that cakehelper person said it was robbery to charge someone $700 for a huge 4-tier cake covered in fondant, with calla lillies cascading down the side AND, get this, that from beginning to end it shouldn't take more then 3 hrs to make. WHAT!?!?! Obviously they don't know what they are talking about it. And if they are an irate customer logging on,if it's that easy make it, do it yourself or go to Wally World! Sorry everyone for taking so long. That just kind of touched a nerve, not to mention how they kept attacking Edna, someone I always see on here being helpful.
post #26 of 40
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Originally Posted by LaBellaFlor

Wow Edna, I just read that person's other post & I don't even know what to think. I wish real cake people would just stay on here & not people who don't take it serious. I may not agree with everybody on here, but I LOVE the fact that everyone's opinion is coming from actual expierence or if they don't know a lot, they are here to learn more. Everyone is here, cause they really care about their craft! This site (though this may seem pitiful on my part) actually means a lot to me. I have been in love with baking since I was a kid. I have been BLESSED with GREAT friends that are more like family. They are willing to listen to me talk cake baking & decorating stuff, but they are not interested in it. They can't really conversate back. Here is where I get to come & talk about my second favorite subject (my kids are my #1 subject of course) & everyone relates, everyone is just excited, & just everyone gets where I'm coming from & how I feel. I just think it's ridiculous for someone just to come on here to stir up trouble. And for those of you who haven't read the other thread that cakehelper person said it was robbery to charge someone $700 for a huge 4-tier cake covered in fondant, with calla lillies cascading down the side AND, get this, that from beginning to end it shouldn't take more then 3 hrs to make. WHAT!?!?! Obviously they don't know what they are talking about it. And if they are an irate customer logging on,if it's that easy make it, do it yourself or go to Wally World! Sorry everyone for taking so long. That just kind of touched a nerve, not to mention how they kept attacking Edna, someone I always see on here being helpful.



Actually what she said was that it was robbery to charge 300 for a 3 tier wedding cake, square shape, lower tier all piped hearts, second tier with cornelli lace and top tier with dots...
And that she can bake decorate and finish a 3 tier cake in 3 hours...
Kind of funny..
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post #27 of 40
I think perhaps Cakeandbakehelper888 does not work in a bakery. If she did she would know how long it takes to bake and cool a 3 tier cake.
Perhaps she decorates them directly as they come hot out of the oven? Like those magical ovens where you put the batter in, and a fully decorated cake comes out in 15 minutes.
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Originally Posted by 7yyrt

I think perhaps Cakeandbakehelper888 does not work in a bakery. If she did she would know how long it takes to bake and cool a 3 tier cake.
Perhaps she decorates them directly as they come hot out of the oven? Like those magical ovens where you put the batter in, and a fully decorated cake comes out in 15 minutes.
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HA! That is freakin HILARIOUS! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif Who knew there was a troll pan out there!
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Originally Posted by 7yyrt

I think perhaps Cakeandbakehelper888 does not work in a bakery. If she did she would know how long it takes to bake and cool a 3 tier cake.
Perhaps she decorates them directly as they come hot out of the oven? Like those magical ovens where you put the batter in, and a fully decorated cake comes out in 15 minutes.
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lmao...I didnt know there was a troll pan..

I think she uses an easy oven.. icon_lol.gif
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post #30 of 40
I think this whole situation is hilarious!

I personally am offended because everyone knows that I am Edna's cyber-stalker and I don't appreciate some troll honing in on my turf!

That being said, you have to take this fakerbakerhelper person as a joke. No photos and she wants to attack one of the best designers on this website. FRICKIN' ACD people! I highly doubt the person who wants us all to charge .30 cent a slice for our cakes so everyone in the world can eat our BC is going to show up in MAD magazine, let alone ACD.

Laugh it off everyone, Ashton Kutcher is punking all of us.
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