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help with gumpaste roses please!

post #1 of 10
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Hello! I'm having a difficult time with gumpaste roses...I was hoping someone with more flower making experience could help. I bought a plastic FMM brand cutter set, and the instructions that came with them instruct me to make the cone not much larger than the size of the smallest petal. I do this but I still have a hard time wrapping the 1st smallest petal around the top of the cone, perhaps my cones are too fat on top?

My main problem comes when I get to the larger outer petals...the gumpaste is so floppy even though I roll it as thin as I think I possibly can the petals won't hold their shape when I put them on the flower, they are just too heavy and floppy and bend backward and slowly fall off the flower, so I end up smooshing them a lot until my rose just looks very unnatural. I find myself messing with my flowers up to 10 minutes after I'm done with them because the petals keep wanting to bend backward and fall off they are so limp and taking forever to dry.

I attached a pic of 2 roses and a rosebud I recently made...I hope you can see them OK. As you can see I end up smooshing all the petals together to keep them in place, and it makes them look very silly from the side.

As far as my environment goes, it is somewhat warm in here (upper 70s), not sure if that makes a difference.

Can anyone offer advice? Thanks!!
LL
post #2 of 10
you can check youtube. there are a lot of rose demonstration videos.
post #3 of 10
Are you drying the roses upside down and the petals are still trying to fall off? I know the petals would fall of mine too if I tried to dry them right side up by sticking them straight into the floral foam. I bend my wire down so that the roses can dry. I doubt the heat has much to do with it. In fact I find that my gumpaste is usually easier to work with when I keep my house warmer.
post #4 of 10
I made a cake a few months ago and had to make gumpaste roses for the first time. I was a little nervous until I found a tutorial online. It helped soooo much. I would have been lost without it!!! Hope it works as well for you as it did for me!!

http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1409721205047057112FcnmtW

HTH
Teresa
post #5 of 10
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armywifebryan, thank you SO much for posting that link! I always had a suspicion people actually let the outer petals dry a good bit before applying them...especially to get those really big open roses. Otherwise how would they keep the petals from all floppin around??

have you tried making those formers yet? I can tell the white part is the top half of a plastic spoon but I can't make out exactly what the silver part is. does it look to you like small round pieces of sheet metal that they bent back 2 sides on each?
post #6 of 10
Somewhere I had read that it was heavy duty aluminum foil cut into circles and just curve the top up. I wanted to be able to reuse mine and not have to worry about storage so I went to the hardware store and bought small sheets of metal and did the same thing. They were really easy to cut and shape and are much more sturdy then the aluminum foil. Just use a glue gun to attach the circles to a piece of card board (or an extra cake board) then hot glue the spoon on top of that. At first my gumpaste kept sticking to the spoons. After losing a couple I finally put a thin (very thin!!) layer of crisco on the spoons and the gumpaste just slides in and out. I think it takes a little longer to harder up with the drisco, but it was worth the wait. Good luck and feel free to ask any questions that might come up!!

Teresa
post #7 of 10
wow teresa, that tutorial is so amazing... thanks for posting it. i'm going to use it when i make the roses for my aug11 bday cake order. thanks again thumbs_up.gif
post #8 of 10
Teresa, what did you use to cut the metal with? Regular scissors or did you have some sort of metal cutter?
post #9 of 10
I used medical scissors. My hubby came home form Iraq with 10 pairs so that is what I happened to grab. Regular scissors would work too, but would probably dull them pretty quick.
post #10 of 10
what are you using to make the floers? make sure you are using flower paste or at least CMC or gumpaste mixed in your fondant or they wont dry fast enough. if your petals aren't being rolled thin enough try a trick i use -i don't roll them at all- i place a small amount of fondant between two pieces of plastic and squash them into a round shape, this way your petals also have that unique natural look that real flowers have that all petals are slightly different. what are you using to stick the petals on? i have seena few instrauction vids online that say to use water- if i used water my petals would slide of quicker than i could stick them on! i use a glue i mix from a piece of flwoer paste diluted with a tiny amount of boiling water until a paste forms that is moist enough to brush on but not wet enought that it runs. thisway the petals stick almost instantly and don't go anywhere. also dry your rose buds (cone shaped piece you mentioned) 24hrs before appyling the leaves so it is strong enough to support the weight of the leaves. make sure you start by gluing the whole petal then very slowly lessen the height of the glue on each petal so they eventuly start opening up more towards the outside but are quite closed on the inside. make sure you wire your buds when dry by heating and inserting the wire (this stops the bud from sliding down the wire when it gets heavy) once you rose is dry turn upside down and make a u shape at the end of the wire and hang on something to dry (I use a clothes drying rack as you can fit hundreds on it without a problem) leave for 24 hrs before removing so they can dry solid. i have dropped many a rose after this process and don't have many that break as they are strong as!
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