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post #76 of 114
tiptop, with your talent, you're just the exception, period! thumbs_up.gif
post #77 of 114
Thanks Indydebi thumbs_up.gif And you certainly win on the business side like nobody else! Ahhh if only I could deal with bridezilla's and future MIL's and pricing like you do........
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post #78 of 114
I do the happy dance when someone asks if they can "copy" one of my cakes!!!!!!! I get sooo excited! And well, I'm not nearly as talented as most CCers here but I did have an issue with a fellow CCer... (actually, my sister did, with one of my cakes, she is my personal cake police) she came across a pic a fellow CCer had posted and was EXACTLY my cake (SB on my photos and avatar) down to the border and then she claimed it was her unique and original design (or something like that, I honestly don't remember) oh well... let her/him have it!
I know I did NOT come up with SB but it sure was MY take on it.
Anyway, I do go to the gallery for inspiration and when I see I cake I really like and want to "copy" I do PM the person and ask for permition and then thank them when I post the cake.
As many have already said, there is nothing new under the sun and we all go to each other for ideas.
Now, to take a picture (of someones cake) and claim it is MY cake, ohhh BIG no no!

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post #79 of 114
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Originally Posted by maria892

We had a noodle salad going around that was so popular EVERYONe was making it.




Ohhh yes, I remember the noodle or asian salad. Everyone made it too death. detective.gif
Sorry back to the cakes

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post #80 of 114
....First, forgive me for not reading every post on this thread. I may be repeating the sentiments of several. This whole thing just makes me double over laughing. IT IS A LIE TO CALL SOMEONE'S PHOTO OF THEIR ORIGINAL WORK YOUR OWN. THAT IS WRONG....BUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE COPIED.....OR BE AN INSPIRATION TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEY WHY THE %^&* DO YOU PUT YOUR PHOTOS ONLINE????? lololOLOLOLOLool There is very little new under the sun.... We all are inspired by others whom we admire in whatever medium we choose to create. For goodness sakes ~ grow up and be nice! Be flattered of someone chooses to emulate your fine artistry. SHARE!!!!! I've been around this site for long enough to have heard this topic make the rounds many times. The end result is always the same. Cake Central is about sharing ideas. Like it or leaveicon_smile.gif))))))))) Quite sincerely ---- phoov.
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post #81 of 114
As a designer, you just have to be flattered that people get inspired by your work. I'm a former graphic artist and my husband is a pool designer and we all looked at magazines and advertisements to get our next new idea. Even big companies get ideas from their competitors. I think it's silly if people take offense to others mimicking their original creation and making it their own.
post #82 of 114
great points phoov. I am very surprised at how heated this topic always becomes . . . . to me, it just seems SO obvious that we are all here to help each other and take ideas from others to use in our own work. I used to be a hairdresser and it used to infuriate me when other hairdressers would try to trademark their techniques. I was always open to sharing my trade secrets, if it helps someone else in their business, good for them!! We all need a helping hand or a mentor at one time or another. I was confident in my work and that my clients were loyal to me so I had no problem helping others. I would take it as a compliment if someone copied my work rather than feeling that someone was "stealing" ideas or creations from me.
post #83 of 114
Take from this what you will....
I was recently at the Louvre in Paris and an artist actually got permission from the gallery to copy a picture. I mean stand in the middle of the floor, look at a picture, and paint it exaclty. I watched him for a little while and found significant differences from his version and the original.

Even when you try to copy someone's work, it comes out at least a little different in the end.

BTW.... I give credit to "my CC crew" when I copy - or at least attempt to - one of your cakes. Thanks!
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post #84 of 114
I use people's cakes as inspiration all the time. I never thought of it as wrong or inconciderate, but after reading this thread I realize that some people do take it personally. I always give credit to my inspiration, because I just feel it is the right thing to do, especially if it is a near copy of a design. But still I hope no one has been offended. I personally feel flattered when someone uses my cake as inspiration...I will admit is is nice to receive credit for it too! I think a lot of problems would be solved if people took the time to note the decorator of a design before posting their pics. I just go back and look in "my favorites." It is usually that easy!
post #85 of 114
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Wow, I am so surprised at all of the response to this topic. This has been a great education for me. I have learned that should I use a cake on this site for inspiration and then post a picture, I should credit my muse. An unwritten rule, but certainly good form. I must admit that I have never copied a cake- but I browse the gallery to learn when the well runs dry. I also own (I kid you not) every freaking cake decorating book on the planet. I am a visual learner.

I think CC is such a great resource and when I am in a pinch and post a "help" topic- I thank my lucky stars that I have all of you to call on. I have learned from the best here on CC, both professionally and artistically. So, thank you to all who post not just to show off your work and talent, but to teach.

Oh, and if someone ever copies one of my cakes- I will raise my glass and toast. The best form of flattery!
post #86 of 114
I have to agree...this is just silly. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Stop taking your selves so seriously, honestly, life is too short thumbs_up.gif

We have cakes that look like cars...Ford or Chevy isn't getting their panties in a bunch. We have cakes that look like pocket books and shoes...the designers arent getting their panties in a bunch...We have cakes that look like crowns...the queen mother isn't getting into a tizzy... why we even have cakes that look like cameras icon_wink.gif wonderful cakes no question...but original designs?? I don't think so. Nikon isn't getting all worked up are they?
Yes you did not use their exact design or logo but is it a close resemblance? Of course it is. Conversantly when someone takes inspiration from one of your designs how is it any different? I have yet to see two cakes come out exactly the same, like was previously mentioned not even from the same designer.

Taking someones picture and claiming it to be yours is wrong, using someone elses design as inspiration is human...and very much a part of art. Just like Life imitates art, so too does art imitate life.
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post #87 of 114
Note to Cassie1686 - Hmmm heated topic? I really didn't read heat. Did anyone else? icon_wink.gif I read good sound beliefs and personal insight maybe, but nooo real heat. And I think this thread clarified a lot of group beliefs here at CC that needed to be clarified such as:

**That almost everyone agrees that we use other avenues and sources for inspiration and to tickle our Muse, such as CC, books and other websites.

**That we almost all agree that when a design seems to really favor another artist that you give credit to that person for their design and for their inspiration because it is good form.

**Finally, that we all agree that using someone else picture and claiming it as your own is a copyright violation and a strict no-no.

Side note to Harrisonsmama - You don't own every book - I do!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Side note to Spongemomsweatpants - Yup, yup Nikon better not get worked up by my Avatar camera cake cuz it's a Pentax! Haha. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post #88 of 114
Thread Starter 
tiptop- Oh yeah? Hee hee. Yes, I agree, this has definitely cleared up the unwritten rules of conduct in our trade, which was precisely the point. The whole pictures stealing thread really got me thinking, and I wanted to put the question out there.
post #89 of 114
"Side note to Spongemomsweatpants - Yup, yup Nikon better not get worked up by my Avatar camera cake cuz it's a Pentax! Haha."

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I stand corrected
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(lol shows how much I pay attention)
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post #90 of 114
I consider six pages of opinions in one day "heated". Yes, all good points, I'm not trying to imply that anyone is getting out of control. I can just see that many people feel incredibly passionate about this. I also think that most of us came in to this discussion agreeing with your points as far as giving credit, copyright laws, etc. Most of us aren't disputing any of that. I was just surprised to see the few people that said they do not even want people to use their ideas. That, IMO, is borderline arrogant to expect no one to ever use your idea on a cake whether it is across country or down the street. If someone feels that threatened by others using their ideas, like indydebi said, you had better start working on your people skills and business skills. Because, there will ALWAYS be someone better than you.
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