Gift Box Cake Lid!

Decorating By Charmed Updated 19 May 2007 , 7:11pm by Ginger08

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Charmed Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 9:51pm
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Hi,
I was thinking about making a gift box cake (one with buttercream and one with fondant) but don't know how to make the lid of the box. I appreciate if you can tell how to make the lid in both buttercream and fondant. Here are 2 picture that I found on internet.
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lecrn Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:09pm
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I would love to know how to do this as well.
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itsloops Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:12pm
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dodibug Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:14pm
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Me too! This is one of those things I just can't wrap my head around!

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Tolinda Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:16pm
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lol, mee too!!

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bobwonderbuns Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:19pm
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Thank you for asking this question!! I have the same one! icon_biggrin.gif

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nsouza Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:25pm
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For the lid you just go to a craft store and buy a styrofoam square. Trim the square if you need too. the cake could be frosted in butter cream but I suggest that you cover the lid out royal icing in advance so that way it is not such a mess to remove the lid when you want to go and cut the cake.

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sweetconfections1 Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 10:38pm
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I am still confussed. Do you cover the foam with fondant so that it takes the shape until it dries a little?

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dodibug Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 11:01pm
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I do know some people have used rice krispie treats to make the lids but I know there is a way to do it with just cake but I don't remember what I have read! Where is adven68 when you need her!!icon_cry.gif She makes these all the time and they are gorgeous!!!

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Juds2323 Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 11:18pm
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I inquired about this a while back. Can't remember. But Because it is a closed lid you can just add another layer of fondant over the top to create the lid. For buttercream I was told to just pipe a strip around the top edge to make it look like a lid. I haven't had a chance to try these yet. Waiting for my dummy cakes to come in so I can try my hatboxes.

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Renaejrk Posted 4 Apr 2007 , 11:19pm
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Couldn't you just make/cut a cake slightly larger than the base and stack it? I know on topsy turvy cakes they go up in size as the layers go up, I would think it would work.

Fondant would definitely be easier, because you could cover the cake once, then at a thicker layer for the top and then trim it to look as "tall" as you wanted it to - does that make sense? There may be other ways, this was just what came off the top of my head!

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christeena Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 12:08am
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Okay, Ladies, here is how I made my gift box w/lid: after putting a thin layer of buttercream on your cake, roll out your fondant. Measure your cake height and then measure the front and along the sides 2/3's back. So say your cake is 4 inches high and the front is 6 inches and the first 2/3's of the cake side on either side is going to be 3 and a half inches. so cut your fondant 4" x 13". Place along the front and sides of the cake. Do the same for the back and back 1/3 sides of the cake. You will have a seam but your ribbon will cover it so don't panic. For the lid measure your cake top and add 1 inch all around. So say you measure the top at 6", you will cut your top piece at 8" square. Next cut a 1" little square at each corner. When you place your top on the box the 1" "flap" will lay on the side all around creating your lid. Use a little crisco on your finger to smooth the corners together, creating your lid. Add your gumpaste ribbon and bow! Please feel free to PM me if you have questions. I've been think about putting a tutorial together on this as I see this question alot! You could ice your box in buttercream and just have the lid be made of fondant, also! icon_smile.gif
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nsouza Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 12:23am
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Originally Posted by sweetconfections1

I am still confussed. Do you cover the foam with fondant so that it takes the shape until it dries a little?




Lets say that If you are going to cover our cake with fondant you add frosting and then cover the cake with the fondant. you will do the same with the lid. The frosting applied to the lid before you cover it with fondant will keep the fondant moist and prevent it from cracking or chipping during handling. If you have ever covered a cake board with fondant its kind of the same process. Reply back with any questions we'll be happy to help!

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paolacaracas Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 1:25am
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For open lid I use styrofoam covered with fondant, then I stick two bamboo sticks about 2" higher than the cake to one of the sides, so when I put the lid on top its hold it open on one side.
You don't get the styrofoam lid back, it goes away with the cake.
See my photos for a cake composed of 4 boxes with the lid open.

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tracy702 Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 1:41am
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If you wanted to make the package cake in buttercream....I would ice the cake.

For example the second photo you posted has a different colored lid.....

so I would ice my square cake blue, sides Only!

Then I would ice the top white.

Next I would pipe in white (to match the lid) using tip #789 a band all around the top edge, then just smooth the edges together with a papertowel after it crust.

The piped band gives the 3-D look of the outter lip of the lid.

Just my thoughts........Hope it helps.

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JanH Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 1:44am
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Let me just add this multi-linked Tiffany Box Cake, with tutorials, templates and directions for all components and several styles of ribbon w/fondant coloring & attaching tips, square corner tips, rice krispy info and more:

http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-1852911.html

MMF tip:

http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-1852911.html

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luvbakin Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 1:48am
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I remember watching an episode of "Ace of Cakes" and they made the lid out of gumpaste, let it dry, then attached it. Sugarshack on this site made a comment in one of her photos that she did the same thing.

What you do is measure the top of your cake, cut a square of gumpaste, then cut four sides, and let them dry. Then sand the edges, and glue it all together with royal icing and let it dry again. After that you just lay it on top of the cake. Then when you go to serve the cake you just lift the lid off and you don't pull up all the bc or fondant underneath.

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toristreats Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 2:07am
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Sorry for highjacking the tread, but I figured our questions were similar.

Does anyone know how to do an open lid?

Thanks!

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lecrn Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 2:21am
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Thanks for all the great replies, but I'm still really confused regarding how to do a fondant lid. The tut. from Sandra Lee looks pretty easy (just using a fondant strip). I guess I'm just too tired to comprehend right now. It would really help if someone could create a tut. with pictures. icon_lol.gif

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JanH Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 2:38am
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There's an open box link in my previous post.

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mjs4492 Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 2:56am
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Here's one that I did pretty much like christeena mentioned -
cutting the fondant "lid" out (8"), cutting the 1" squares out at the corners. Lay the piece of fondant onto your fondant-covered cake. I dabbed the corners with water to seal them (you can see the seams at the corners). icon_rolleyes.gif
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Charmed Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 4:05am
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I just wanted to thank you all for your help and all your tips and links. I appreciate all your help.
Katy
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dodibug Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 11:59am
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thumbs_up.gif I'm starting to wrap my head around all this. Thanks guys!

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mullett Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 12:29pm
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I DID A ROUND HAT BOX THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH AN OPEN LID. I USED AN 8" PAN FOR THE BODY OF THE BOX AND A 9" PAN FOR THE TOP. I USED RICE KRISPIES FOR THE TOP. ONCE THEY WERE PRESSED IN THE 9" PAN AS TIGHT AS I COULD PACK THEM I TURNED THEM OUT ON A BOARD AND PUT THEM IN THE FRIDGE. THIS I DID A WEEK AHEAD. THEN I ROLLED OUT MY FONDANT FOR THE LID....I COVERED THE BOTTOM OF THE 9" PAN WITH PLASTIC WRAP AND DRAPED THE FONDANT OVER THE PAN AND LET IT DRY OUT FOR THE WEEK. WHEN I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER I PUT A LAYER OF BC ON THE RK TOP AND PUT THE FONDANT COVER ON THE RK'S. I FIT PERFECTLY. ONCE THE BODY OF THE CAKE WAS COMPLETED I STUCK IN TWO SKEWERS TO LIFT THE TOP UP SOMEWHAT AND OFF SIDED. ADDED DECORATIONS AND A FONDANT ROPE HANDLE. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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toristreats Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by mullett

I DID A ROUND HAT BOX THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH AN OPEN LID. I USED AN 8" PAN FOR THE BODY OF THE BOX AND A 9" PAN FOR THE TOP. I USED RICE KRISPIES FOR THE TOP. ONCE THEY WERE PRESSED IN THE 9" PAN AS TIGHT AS I COULD PACK THEM I TURNED THEM OUT ON A BOARD AND PUT THEM IN THE FRIDGE. THIS I DID A WEEK AHEAD. THEN I ROLLED OUT MY FONDANT FOR THE LID....I COVERED THE BOTTOM OF THE 9" PAN WITH PLASTIC WRAP AND DRAPED THE FONDANT OVER THE PAN AND LET IT DRY OUT FOR THE WEEK. WHEN I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER I PUT A LAYER OF BC ON THE RK TOP AND PUT THE FONDANT COVER ON THE RK'S. I FIT PERFECTLY. ONCE THE BODY OF THE CAKE WAS COMPLETED I STUCK IN TWO SKEWERS TO LIFT THE TOP UP SOMEWHAT AND OFF SIDED. ADDED DECORATIONS AND A FONDANT ROPE HANDLE. HOPE THIS HELPS.




I didn't think about rice krispies for the lid. I think that is a great idea. I was going to be making rice krispies for part of the cake I'm going to be making anyway. My cake is going to be round also. Thanks for the idea.

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CakeRN Posted 6 May 2007 , 1:29am
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saving this

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smcintosh2801 Posted 19 May 2007 , 1:35am
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This is so useful! Thanks JAnH!

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JanH Posted 19 May 2007 , 9:20am
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Sorry for the interruption.

Please, no "save" threads, per Jackie and other members requests.

For clarification and other save options, please read:

http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopicp-2822433-.html

http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-295773-.html

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licia Posted 19 May 2007 , 3:46pm
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Great Directions for Gift Box with Lid, Thanks everyone for sharing!!

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Ginger08 Posted 19 May 2007 , 7:11pm
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after frosting and smoothing my cake, I take a large size basket weave tip with the flat side out and run it around the edge ot upper part of the cake. Then using a warmed spatula smooth the frosting from the edge inward to make it look seamless....As for fondant...I run fondant arounf the sides only of the cake. then cut a square 1-2 inches for over hang on each side...place and snip the corners with a scissors and the will stick togther...I also add with a brush a small amount of water to the upper edge of the cake sides so the fondants stick together...Hope I have made myself clear enough to help you. Ginger08

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