Want that creamy light frosting you get from high-end bakeries. This is the one. It is less sweet than traditional buttercream. Plus, I just add 2 tablespoons of high quality cocoa and a teaspoon of espresso and it makes an amazing chocolate frosting. Crusts nicely if chilled.


  • Prep time: 20-25 min
  • 1/3 cup flour
  • 1 cup milk (I use 2% or whole)
  • 1/2 cup shortening
  • 1/2 cup butter (unsalted)
  • 1 cup granulated sugar
  • 1/2 teaspoon vanilla
  • 1/4 salt
1. in a small saucepan blend flour and milk.
2. cook stirring constantly until mixture bubbles.
3. cool.
4.In a large bowl, cream shortening, butter and sugar until fluffy and well mixed.
5. add vanilla and salt to creamed mix until blended well.
6. on medium speed beat in cooled flour mix in small portions (teaspoon at a time) beating well after each addition.
7. continue beating until light and fluffy.
Always apply frosting to a well chilled or frozen cake.


dsilvest Says... 2010-04-30 18:50:31

I love this recipe, I have used it for years.

crumbcake Says... 2010-04-30 19:24:08

Never heard of it, will be glad to try it!

SusanReis Says... 2010-04-30 22:22:59

This is a great recipe and tastes great. Be careful not to use when the weather is too warm. This icing holds up best if it is refrigerated. Enjoy!

PuffCake Says... 2010-05-01 05:56:50

Is this a crusting buttercream and can it be easily piped like traditional buttercream? thanks in advance :)

PuffCake Says... 2010-05-01 05:59:41

Is this a crusting buttercream and can it be easily piped like traditional buttercream? Thanks in advance.

Peggydl Says... 2010-05-01 13:33:55

Never heard of it either. But I'm longing to try it. Thank you.

patrice2007 Says... 2010-05-01 18:33:53

Sounds interesting...going to try it. By the way how much does this make? Thank you, Patrice

Rhonda19 Says... 2010-05-02 07:20:33

I have seen this recipe so many times, but have never tried it. I live in the South where its Warm! so not sure if it will work for me.

Erawin2008 Says... 2010-05-02 08:32:49

I tried this recipe yesterday and it flopped. I think my house may have been to warm. It was in the 90's here in florida and my husband had the ac too low. I didn't fluff too much and pretty much runny. I did place it in the fridge to see if the cold and then mixing later will help. It does taste good.

Tiffany29 Says... 2010-05-02 15:52:46

This is a good recipe. My mother always uses this on red velvet cake.

Dizzymaiden Says... 2010-05-03 06:32:20

PuffCake-It is a very light weight buttercream mix-pipes nice borders but nothing intricate. Also as Erawin2008 found out it does not do well in warm conditions. (to which I am sorry it flopped!). I would use it if you are going to be inside and have a person who does not care for the full on taste of powdered sugar/butter.

Dizzymaiden Says... 2010-05-03 06:39:29

patrice2007- I was able to frost and fill 2, 9 inch cakes. I had enough left over for a dozen cupcakes. You could possibly cut this in half or double. But make sure that flour/milk mix is cool and your cake is chilled. You can add a bit of flavoring to this - it is a nice base.

texasrh Says... 2010-05-03 08:43:28

This is an old recipe - My great grandmother (and a sley of blue haired great aunts) always used this frosting on chocolate chiffon and red velvet cakes. It was a family reunion regular. I've never piped with it, but I think it would be fine for a large star tip shell border. Mine doesn't crust - it stays soft. If you don't cream the fats/sugar enough, your icing will be grainy.

texasrh Says... 2010-05-03 08:45:27

One other difference - I cook my milk/flour until I get 'wall paper' paste (not just bubbles) and cool it completely. I think that helps the 'fluffy factor' when you whip it in with the sugar.

Dizzymaiden Says... 2010-05-04 12:40:21

I also look for a paste consistancy when it cools. I don't have any problem with the fats/sugar being grainy, but I use castor, not sure if that helps?

cakedout Says... 2010-05-06 09:29:35

I've used this recipe for years as well. -definitely stir the milk/flour mixture until it is like paste. I then spread mine on a plate and cover with plastic wrap. I'd make all my bases first and have the plates spread all over the kitchen. :) -Butter should be just above room temp-but not cold! Cold butter or overly warm, mushy butter spell "flop". -use the finest granulated sugar...it will decrease your whipping time. If your icing is 'grainy', it needs whipped longer. -This icing HATES hot weather! In the making stage anyway...if your kitchen is hot-forget it! LOL I've had it stand up in pretty warm reception sites however. -This icing doesn't crust-it remains soft. It will hold up to regular 10x sugar icing decorations, however: just nothing extremely heavy. -I've found that it doesn't take color or airbrush well, and I haven't had much luck trying to turn it into peanut butter frosting. :( -Even though it can give you attitude at times, it has been the reason my clients order cakes from me! They love the not-so-sweet icing!

Motorhead Says... 2010-05-07 06:40:41

i've recently tried your recippie, i took advice from the other readers and let the flour/milk mixture come to a paste (kinda like a rue), i found it to be a nice frosting, spread easily. i didn't really care for the initial flavor though, so i added some rum flavoring...yum-O!! I will make again. thanks for the post!!

ToniMarieLovesCuppies Says... 2010-05-07 08:44:35

does this have to be refrigerated?

rebe419 Says... 2010-05-07 11:45:05

is this frosting good if im going to top the cake with fondant? should it be cold before adding fondant? thanks :)

rebe419 Says... 2010-05-07 16:02:48

also... forgot to ask, can I use store bought icing?

punkyf Says... 2010-05-07 17:57:33

Would this be good on an ice cream cake?

funpets Says... 2010-05-07 19:08:28

tried this today.taste great but i have grainy testure from the f/milk mixture.what did i do wrong

JessicasSweets Says... 2010-05-08 19:52:26

after frosting the cake with this can you then use butter cream to decorate on top of it and can u put fondant over it too?

totallymomma Says... 2010-05-08 21:05:42

similar to a Dutch recipe my mom used to make.

Dizzymaiden Says... 2010-05-09 12:17:12

JessicasSweets: I would not try to use this as a icing for under fondant. Not sure it would "hold" up.

Punkyf: This would be the perfect icing for an ice cream cake. As the icing loves cold. However, if you are making a regular cake, it does not need to be refridged.

I use 100 percent whole milk with good flour, such as King Arthur. When it is cooled I put clear syran wrap on the top to prevent a skin.

Just keep whipping that frosting it will get smooth and fluffy.

QueenMo Says... 2010-05-10 01:30:39

hmmmm...definitely worth a try! it sounds yummy:)

mamawrobin Says... 2010-05-10 21:38:29

My grandmother use to make this icing. Think I'm going to make it for the next "family" cake I make. Actually I'd forgotten all about this icing. Thanks for posting the receipe.

cakeE101 Says... 2010-05-11 12:24:32


crystalliora Says... 2010-05-11 16:20:49

what's the salt measurement again?

crystalliora Says... 2010-05-11 16:22:24

does it matter what temp you cook it at?

mcook1670 Says... 2010-05-13 14:37:18

too many little flour lumps...didn't like it at all. I sifted the flour before i cooked it with milk, ran it through a sieve after and then again after mixing it still lumps..crap

nanceann Says... 2010-05-30 20:47:00

I love this. My original Red Velvet cake recipe called for this frosting, and I prefer it to cream cheese frosting.

lilruby Says... 2010-07-11 18:24:56

Recently used a similar recipe, filled a torted cake and did a crumb coat with remainder. It was hot and humid while I worked but did not seem to bother the icing. I froze this, later taking it out to finish frosting with a bc .after defrosting the frosted cake it was out all day and held up without any problems. perfect creamy filling

craftylady56 Says... 2010-07-23 09:22:30

I had used a very similar frosting for years. I recently "found" my recipe again and have made it twice in the past few weeks. I also live in Florida and have no problems with it Here's my recipe. 1/4 cup WONRDA flour--has to be this brand --used for gravies etc 1 cup milk dash salt Mix above in small saucepan till thick and bubbly-stirring constantly. Cool completely. In bowl mix: 1/2 cup Crisco 1/2 stick butter 1 teaspoon vanilla Mix then add cooked mixture . Add 2 c powdered sugar and mix very well.

Barbarainnc1956 Says... 2010-12-01 15:39:11

This frosting must be refrigerated because of the milk in the recipe.

gypsydee Says... 2011-11-12 02:16:53

Just luv this frosting! Don't like graininess of buttercream this is much smoother. I made chocolate cake with coffee and frosted it with this frosting but I used flavored coffee creamer instead of milk, it was perfect! Thanxs for the recipe. Gypsydee

scarlettgold Says... 2012-08-11 01:05:57

if you have lumps of flour, you need to stir constantly after adding the flour to the milk. I have made this MANY times and have never ever had the lumps. This frosting IS FABULOUS. I use 6 T flour to 2 C whole milk, 2 C butter, 2 C sugar, beat until fluffly then add the flour mixture and beat the tar out of it. it will not be grainy. also I increase the vanilla to @ least 1 T. I will scrape a vanilla bean in it...one of the best frostings there is and so much easier than Swiss/Italian Meringue yet IMHO just as good if not better.

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