I have done one of each (pic's) rubbing a little shortening onto your wax paper really helps with release once it is dried. with royal icing you can start with tip #3 and second layer #2 for strength. I must say I prefer the gumpaste tiara over royal. I used and extruder and it was a breeze to make. Good Luck!!! Patterns are easy to create using cutters (hearts,flowers etc. make on side fold paper and trace onto the other side so they are exactly same.