So I thought I'd be clever and decorate a ton of Halloween cookies for piping practice.
Anyways, I baked a ton of witch hats, ghosts, black cats, pumpinks, etc.
I followed the recipe on the back of the Wilton cookie cutters for icing. It's basically 10x sugar, a couple tsps of milk and corn syrup.
The icing was so hard to handle, so hard to deal with, very sticky (I guess from the corn syrup) and didn't behave like other icings I've worked with.
I'm just frustrated and wondering if anyone has ever used that type of icing for cookies or what is the best kind? I need some that dries hard. I haven't tried royal icing, so I guess I will try that next.
I am new to the cookie scene as well, but I used Toba's Glace icing and outline, and it turned out good. The decorating could have been better but that was me not the icing!
I haven't tried to royal yet either. How does that taste?
Do you use Lesley's or Sugarbaker's Royal Icing? Have you tried Antonia74's from this site?
I posted my school bus cookies using the royal icing (Antonia's) this afternoon. The icing was a great consistency and easy to work with but I found it to taste blah .
Also, some of the detail on the cookies is breaking off now when you bite into the cookie. I like the taste of Toba Garrett's glace icing with the confectioner's sugar, milk, and corn syrup, but I definitely have a problem with the mess as well. I think I'd like to try perfecting the glace icing for the taste.
All this experimenting is going right to my hips!
I just recently tried Toba Garrett's recipe for his icing and it was wonderful. His recipes are definitely the best I have tried so far and will probably only use these from now on.
Here is a cut and paste frm their site... I was able to bring up the recipe after clicking "recipes" at the top of the page. The link was not working though from the directions page.
Royal Icing from Sugarbaker's
Makes 3 cups of base consistency icing
3 3/4 cups sifted confectioners' sugar
3 T meringue powder
6 T warm water
Beat 4 to 5 minutes
By hand, stir in optional flavorings and desired tints.
They say to add 8 T of warm water if you want flow consistency
Toba Garrett's Glace' Icing
1 lb. confectioners' sugar
3/8 cup milk
3/8 cup light corn syrup
flavoring as desired
In a mixing bowl, mix the sugar and milk first. Add corn syrup just until combined.
Divide to flavor and add color.
Lesley's Royal Icing
1 bag confectioners' sugar
4 T. meringue powder (actually, I just dump some in but that sounds about right)
2 t. flavoring (usually almond)
Put confectioners' sugar and meringue powder in mixing bowl. Start beater and mix slowly
for a few seconds. With mixer running, add 3 to 4 T warm water. Add flavoring. Continue
mixing and adding water a little at a time until you get the consistency you want. Divide and color!
Remember that royal icing only takes a long time to dry after you put it on a cookie.
Until then, it turns to concrete in seconds. Keep your containers covered until you are
ready to use it. The cookies you see a on Kitchen Collectables' web pages were all
decorated with Royal Icing. Royal Icing has several advantages over buttercream:: no
fat, the icing won't separate, the icing hardens so cookies can be stacked, and you can
freeze cookies iced with Royal Icing!
I think maybe the wilton recipe was just not enough liquid. Seriously it was very hard even after being warmed up in my hands for quite a while.
I just tasted a cookie though and it is delish.
Hands down Toba's icing tastes the best. I've tried 5 or 6 different ones and I love how shiny the icing dries. Have you ladies tried using the squeeze bottle to contain the mess? It's easy clean up and I use the tip to push the icing where it needs to go.
Thanks for the tip bikegal. I'm going to try the bottles.
By the way, your bunny cookies are awesome.
I used the squeeze bottles and I did not have a mess....except for the one I made when I used too much icing and my cookie overflowed!! Clean up was a breeze as well! Toba's recipes were very TASTY!
I throughly enjoyed decorating my cookies, but hated the mess. Royal icing is dang hard to clean up after it hardens. How do you clean the squeeze bottles?
Oh! I just love the squeeze bottle idea!!! Have any of you ever used it with color flow? I always make a mess with my color flow when I try to bag the thin stuff.
Also, the royal icing dries very hard, but if you soak the equipment in hot soapy water for a little while, the icing breaks down pretty quickly. With little ones running around, it is not always easy to clean up right away. So, I am speaking from experience.
bm, Toba's Glace Icing doesn't dry hard as a rock like royal icing so it's not that difficult to clean up. I usually soak the squeeze bottles in hot water until the icing has dissolved then add a small squeeze of liquid detergent . Give it a good swirl or use one of the baby bottle cleaners. The squeeze bottle is a cookie decorator's best friend. I'm not sure how everyone else does it but I line the cookies all up and work like I'm on an assembly line.
Ok, I will definitely buy the squeeze bottles. You can't even imagine how messy my kitchen was by the time I finished.
Just did some cookie last night to practice ans used the bottles.. I will never use bags again for cookies.. I also used antonia74's recipe for the icing and it is great!
Do you use the bottles to outline and fill in?
My bottles have 2 different size tips with them and you can use your own tips as well. They have coupler attached. I love them! I just soaked them in warm soapy water, rinsed and clean up was done!!
blittle, where did you get your bottles? I make such a mess w/ the bags!
I got them at www.countrykitchensa.com. Super fast shipping. They sell them at www.kitchengifts.com also but I have never ordered from them. I got the big ones and small ones.
thanks for the info. i used the toba recipe, but i made such a mess that i found splatters of hardened icing here there and everywhere. i will give the bottles a try. it couldn't be any messier.
Last time I was at Michael's I saw some squeeze bottles, so you might want to take a look at yours first so you can try to avoid the shipping charges.
When you use the squeeze bottles, do you use bags to put the stiffer icing outline in, and then fill with the squeeze bottles, or do you use the bottles for outlining AND filling?
I followed antonia's advice and skipped the outlining all together. I do not have steady hands and was still able to frost the cookie with no problem.
I always use my mom's glacé icing....it tastes terrific. She takes about a tablespoon of butter or margarine and melts it. Then she pours it into about a cup of powdered sugar and mixes it. It forms sort of a ball. Then she adds milk a tsp at a time and mixes slowly until all of the lumps are dissolved,and until she feels the consistency of the icing is right.
I always use this icing on my cookies, because I find that with royal icing or colorflo, you almost break your teeth biting into it. This icing dries decently, but is still soft enough and the butter makes it extra tasty. It also freezes well. If I can find my gingerbread cookie photos from last year, I'll send one along . I used this butter icing on them. There were none left!!
Thanks for the info blittle! I just placed an order. I'd probably pay more in gas getting to my nearest Michaels - not to mention travel time! Maybe next time i'm in the area I"ll check that out too.
I used the bottles for outline and filling. I didn't have a mess from Toba's recipe and It was delicious. Let us know how you like them!!