-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 4:52pm
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This is a metal bowl, 3-4" deep probably. Can I bake a cake in this? I have fondant and frosting left over from a project from earlier this week and am in a cake-making mood today. I'd like to just make a small cake. Would this bowl work? It seems anything metal would, but.... Thanks for your help. icon_smile.gif

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vlare Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:07pm
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I have never tried a bowl,but I have baked in a sm. coffee can (pumkin bread) so it seems that the bolw would work. good luck !

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:13pm
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Thank you, Vlare. icon_smile.gif I'm thinking it'll work too, but I'd hate to waste the ingredients. I'll see how it goes. icon_smile.gif

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:25pm
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Post back with your results. I would think it would work, also. But I'd like to know for sure.

I just read where someone bakes cakes in cookie tins and ships them to her loved one in Iraq. So if that works, I would think this would.

BTW, anyone wanting do this: don't ice it!! It takes three weeks (at least) for them to receive a package. She places the icing in a separate airtight container and also throws in a plastic knife for icing and cutting, a few plastic forks and paper plates.

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:29pm
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Thank you, Dawn. I think this will be today's project.

And I just read that too--Maybe we found the same magazine or something? icon_smile.gif I had deja vu when I read about the napkins, icing, forks, plates, balloons, etc. LOL. It's a great idea for the troops, or for anyone far away, that's for sure. icon_smile.gif

Thanks again. I'll update this thread once the cake amounts to something (or not). icon_smile.gif

MrsMissey Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:33pm
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While on the subject of soldiers, here is a great way to support our troops. You can sign up to adopt a soldier or a family and send care packages!

http://HomefrontHugs.com

I am not affiliated with this organization but have signed on to sponsor a soldier! usaribbon.gif

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:40pm
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there is also another site that I participate on:

www.anysoldier.com

It's a great (and easy) thing to do.

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:42pm
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We're leading parallel lives today, Dawn. icon_biggrin.gif I just recommended AnySoldier.com on a couple of my other favorite websites yesterday. [cue Twilight Zone music....] icon_smile.gif

SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:55pm
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The bowl looks like stainless steel. Now you can bake in stainless steel, but it is not a good conductor of heat, which is why your stainless steel pots and pans always should have a core of other metals on the bottom, generally copper and some other metal. The more plys the better. See if your stainless steel pots are not triple ply well there is a tendency for them to warp easily. Without the heating core at the bottom of the pans, there is a tendency for uneven heat distribution and burning and sticking. So back to using the stainless bowl, yes you can bake in it , but you would be better off with a different material. Which explains why only very rarely do you find a cake pan made from stainless and when you do, they advertise that it will stay looking new for years etc, but they never talk about how it will cook. Unevenly, for sure. Which is why aluminum is generally the most common material used.
Hugs Squirrelly Cakes

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:57pm

A-haaaaa! I see. Thank you, Squirelly. Maybe I should just make a cake in a regular pan today and trim it to the size I want. I don't have enough ingredients on-hand to make a bigger cake today. Thanks for your help. icon_smile.gif

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 5:57pm

Very good info. So, I'm assuming cookie tins and coffee cans are made from aluminum? I honestly don't know. So it would be OK to bake in these withour added precaution?

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 6:10pm

Okay, what about this bowl instead? It's one of my mom's Pfaltzgraff pottery bowls. She said she's heard that you can bake in these, but has never tried it.

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Thanks again.

SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 6:28pm
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Very good info. So, I'm assuming cookie tins and coffee cans are made from aluminum? I honestly don't know. So it would be OK to bake in these withour added precaution?



Haha, well come on now Dawnster, you know darn well that would be just too easy, haha! Some things are made up of tin, some aluminum and some stainless. Of course all of these materials are combinations of different percentages of various metals - sorry can't think of the breakdown of what makes what. Generally you can cook in your tin cans that don't have any special treatments, like the ones that appear white inside etc. Some coffee tins are actually cardboard with a silver coloured kind of liner, which I am sure you know, but in case others don't.
But most tins that you get say peas or veggies in, as long as they don't have that white coating, then yes you can. A lot of folks make date and nut loaves in these so they can slice up round slices.
Regarding the latest raid of your mother's things, haha, if it is oven to table ware, like ironstone, yes you can bake in it. You can make cakes in clay bakers too, the kind you make roasts and stews in. You have to be careful that you are not using any kind of dish that was not meant for ovenware, some are decorative only and have lead based paints or glazes. I know Pfaltzgraf does make some microwave and oven safe dishes, but I don't know about this one. If you know the pattern name etc. go on one of the china sites to see if it is listed as such.
Like I said, stainless isn't a good conductor of heat, but I think if you have a heating core or the centre part of a wondermold pan, the tube thing, or even the centre part of an old coffee perculator that you can insert in the centre of the bowl, it will draw the heat more into the centre and make the heat distribution more even. I guess if it was me, I would try it with the cheapest method of making a cake mix possible, the water and eggs method and chalk it up to an experiment.
No bundt pans or things like that to come up with?
Hugs Squirrelly Cakes

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 6:31pm

Thanks again, Squirrelly. icon_smile.gif I've been of the Pfaltzgraff website and some of their dishes in this pattern ("Yorketown") are listed as bakeware, but they don't specify really. It seems the ones labeled bakeware just come with lids, so that's not a helpful disntinction. icon_smile.gif I have other pans, but not the size I want except for this and that metal bowl. I may just have to experiment and risk wasting ingredients if it doesn't make right--But I hate to do that when it's Mom's ingredients. icon_smile.gif

We'll see. Thanks again. icon_smile.gif

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 6:41pm

I was interested in the tin idea for shipping to North Carolina- where most of my family is. But I guess I could bake it in a similar sized cake pan and just transfer it.

I'd never thought of baking in a veggie can for perfectly round slices... now that's a great tip! ... and I'm a caterer and never ever came across that....

Live and learn

SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 8:34pm
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I was interested in the tin idea for shipping to North Carolina- where most of my family is. But I guess I could bake it in a similar sized cake pan and just transfer it.

I'd never thought of baking in a veggie can for perfectly round slices... now that's a great tip! ... and I'm a caterer and never ever came across that....

Live and learn



Yeah, or live long enough to have seen people make do with almost anything, haha! My Mom used to used the tin cans or coffee cans for fruit cakes. See she kept adding ingredients to the recipe every Christmas, but she never added to her pan collection. Think that folks that lived through the Great Depression were like that.
I think the date and nut loaf in the tin can actually is English. I remember them selling tins of various types of loaves and I think that is where it came from. I have a few Jamaican friends that do up their famous rum cakes in them too.
I know Bitte from the Wilton site uses the tins too.
I don't know about your cookie tins, Dawn, but I find that mine rust easily if I am not really careful to make certain they are completely dry before I put the lids back on. Plus I am thinking the centre seam and the bottom seam might be a hassle, although I guess you could cover them with foil. But yes, that would be neat to bake and send it in the container!
Yes it makes for interesting slices and date and nut loaves, two slices together with some cream cheese in the middle, yummy!
So have you ever baked in enamelware? I am thinking an old chamber pot would be a great shape. Ok, an unused one, haha, I am joking, haha!
Oh yes, the phrase I was looking for about the centre thing from the percolator is the basket support.
As far as the dishes go, I think it the plates can go in the oven, then the bowls etc can.
Hugs Squirrelly Cakes

jscakes Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 9:39pm

My $.03 worth here...do you have any Pyrex mixing bowls? I have used the smallest one for ummm, little round mounds, and they baked perfectly!

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 9:49pm

Thanks, jscakes, but no, I don't have any Pyrex here. I decided to try it in the metal bowl after all, despite the warnings that it would probably bake unevenly. "Stubborn!!" as my dad would cry out. icon_smile.gif It's baking right now, has about 20 minutes to go. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks again! icon_smile.gif

heracastle Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 10:35pm
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Thank you, Dawn. I think this will be today's project.

And I just read that too--Maybe we found the same magazine or something? icon_smile.gif I had deja vu when I read about the napkins, icing, forks, plates, balloons, etc. LOL. It's a great idea for the troops, or for anyone far away, that's for sure. icon_smile.gif

Thanks again. I'll update this thread once the cake amounts to something (or not). icon_smile.gif




You have to be careful when sending baked goods to Iraq. We had an adopted solider over there and I sent him a b-day cake. (Undecorated of course.) It had started to mold before he got it. Just wanted wanted to let you know if you send something make sure to write a note to check the cake before eating.

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 10:53pm

'Good advice, heracastle. icon_smile.gif

Here's the cake so far. It just came out of the oven.

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It was puffier/domed on top, but I smooshed it down--My equivalent of leveling. icon_smile.gif There's obviously a crack on the top, but otherwise, it seems done and okay. We'll know when we taste it, I guess.

Stay tuned for the next installment of "Can-I-Bake-a-Cake-in-This-Bowl?-No?-Well-Let-Me-Try-It-Anyway...." icon_wink.gif

-TenderHeart Posted 5 Mar 2005 , 11:14pm

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Would it be too hard for a fondant beginner to try to cover this cake with fondant? I've only covered one other cake with it. It's small, which might make it easier.

-TenderHeart Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 1:08am

The fondant covered it nicely, and the cake tastes fine. (Whew!) I'll post a photo--or 12, LOL (kidding!)--shortly. icon_smile.gif I'm so thrilled that the fondant worked well this time; I just covered a cake with fondant for the first time on Valentine's Day and it was so messy. I'm *so* happy with the way tonight's cake turned out. icon_smile.gif Thank you all again for your help. icon_smile.gif

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 1:27am

Very cool! Thanks for sharing. I'm the same way you seem to be....

"Don't tell me it can't be done!!"

-TenderHeart Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 1:43am

Ta-da! icon_smile.gif It's not perfect, but by gosh, it covered much more nicely than the first time I tried it. icon_smile.gif

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And yesssssss, Dawn, I think it would be a hoot to be in the kitchen with you. ("It can't be DONE, huh?" --- "Yeah!"---"YEAH?!??? Watch THIS!" --- "YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" [diving into flour headfirst] icon_wink.gif

SquirrellyCakes Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 5:33am

Well it certainly looks good, good for you!
Just wanted to be clear, I knew it could be done, I was just getting across that it isn't the best metal for cooking in and you have to play more with cooking times and making sure that it cooks in the centre without over cooking the outer edges. You can cook in just about anything that is oven safe with varying degrees of perfection. Sort of like the difference between cooking a cake in a better cake pan or in a cheaper pan, eventually both cakes will cook, it is just that the one that is a better grade and weight of aluminum will cook better than the cheaper lighter weight aluminum.
Sorry, I thought I was clearer on that.
Hugs Squirrelly Cakes

jscakes Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 5:46am

That did turn out really nice! Weren't you just a teeny bit nervous about it coming out of the bowl? :O

-TenderHeart Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 3:04pm

Thank you, Squirrelly and jscakes. icon_smile.gif

Squirrelly, I understand better now. When I read "bake unevenly," I was expecting the cake to be soupy in some spots and burnt in others. While that wasn't the case, it *did* take a long time to bake! So, anyway, I understand better now. If I ever make a cake this size for someone else, I'll make sure to have a "real" baking pan first, but just as an experiment, I'm happy with the bowl's results. icon_smile.gif


And jscakes, I greased both the bottom *and* sides of the bowl--my mom wondered if it would rise at all, given that--, and it came out really easily. But yeah, she would not have been pleased had I destroyed her mixing bowl. icon_wink.gif

diane Posted 6 Mar 2005 , 8:25pm

wow, being a military wife for over 16 years, it sure makes me happy to see people back in the states supporting our soldiers!!...especially when my husband is one of them! icon_smile.gif

heracastle Posted 7 Mar 2005 , 12:34am
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wow, being a military wife for over 16 years, it sure makes me happy to see people back in the states supporting our soldiers!!...especially when my husband is one of them! icon_smile.gif




I may not agree with all the politics involved with the military, having been both an Army brat and Air Force wife I've seen A LOT of bull as I'm sure you have, but these men and women are out there risking their lives trying to keep us safe at home. The solider I sent the cake to will be home shortly (come to find out he lives only an hour from me so Ill get to meet him) and I received my new one yesterday. I'm so excited. I love sending things out. I may not be able to pick up a rifle and help fight the bad guys, but I can at least support those that do. I just have to learn not to send a cake next time. LOL I think I'll do cookies with icing tubes instead of cake with icing tubes.

If anyone wants to help support our troops PM me and you can send things to me to send for him and his platoon or I can get you in touch with the adopt a solider program.

Blessings,
Michelle

GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 7 Mar 2005 , 12:54am

Do you think a cake would ship better over there is we sealed it first like in one of those food savers???

I'm very interested i the program you are using. I really like anysoldier.com and will continue to support them. However, we're not allowed to send home bakes goodies. I totally get why (terrorism comes from the strangest places) But I'd still love to bake some cookies and ship them over.

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